On Nov 28, 11:42*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Home Guy wrote:
You Americans are so screwed.
You're screwing yourselves.
Remember what I said about "you couldn't pay me enough to live in the
states" ?
A pack of gorrillas flash-robbing a 7-11 in the DC area is nothing
compared to this.
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Senate Moves To Allow Military To Intern Americans Without Trial
http://www.infowars.com/senate-moves...to-intern-amer...
NDAA detention provision would turn America into a "battlefield"
Paul Joseph Watson
Monday, November 28, 2011
The Senate is set to vote on a bill today that would define the whole
of the United States as a "battlefield" and allow the U.S. Military to
arrest American citizens in their own back yard without charge or
trial.
"The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this
president-and every future president - the power to order the military
to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in
the world. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be
swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any
battlefield, even within the United States itself," writes Chris
Anders of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office.
What's the big deal? During WW2 we had thousands of American citizens held
in POW camps throughout the country (we 16 or so POW camps just in my
state). There they stayed, without access to American courts, until
repatriated to their home country.
The last of the German POWs were repatriated from England in 1948, three
years after the conflict ended. Some, including William Joyce, famously
known as Lord Haw Haw, were hanged for treason. Russia kept some German POWs
until 1956!
These POWs were, in the main, holders of dual citizenship although there
were a few who fought on the side of the Axis out of conviction rather than
nationality.
If you participate in an armed conflict, you may suffer the consequences
should you be captured by the opposing side.
Citizenship is irrelevant on the battlefield.- Hide quoted text -
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Here we go again. Using Infowars as a source for this is the first
obvious
red flag as they are loons who believe in every wild conspiracy theory
under
the sun, including that 911 was a govt job. Second is that there is
that the
article does not quote what is actually in the legislation.
A quick google produces this:
"(a) Custody Pending Disposition Under Law of War-
(1) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in paragraph (4), the Armed Forces
of the United States shall hold a person described in paragraph (2)
who is captured in the course of hostilities authorized by the
Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40) in
military custody pending disposition under the law of war.
(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to
any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is
determined--
(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force
that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-
Qaeda; and
(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an
attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition
partners.
(3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR- For purposes of this subsection, the
disposition of a person under the law of war has the meaning given in
section 1031(c), except that no transfer otherwise described in
paragraph (4) of that section shall be made unless consistent with the
requirements of section 1033.
(4) WAIVER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY- The Secretary of Defense may, in
consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National
Intelligence, waive the requirement of paragraph (1) if the Secretary
submits to Congress a certification in writing that such a waiver is
in the national security interests of the United States.
(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident
Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in
military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the
United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in
military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful
resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking
place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the
Constitution of the United States.
So first in only applies to Al-Qaeda that have participated in
planning attacks on the USA
Second, it specifically excluded US citizens.
Unless there is something else somewhere in this legislation, Infowars
is flat out lying. The
fact that the short section was never quoted suggests that is exactly
what they are doing.