On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:00:44 +1100, "Grumpy"
wrote:

Did it ever occur to anyone on this newsgroup that there are a LOT of places
outside of the US that aregood places to live?
Places where you don't have crackheads and gangs hanging on every corner.
The place is stuffed. get out of it and join the real world. Half your
population dont vote and you get the politicians you deserve as a result. Go
to the polls and turf them out if you don't like them. Don't waste bandwidth
whining about it on a newsgroup dedicated to metalworking,


Sure it has occured to thinking people.

However there are thousands of places INSIDE the US that are good places
to live as well.

Now about Oz....its certainly better than the UK..but its hardly all
that good.

Gunner





"Allen Drake" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:46:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:12:45 -0400, "Existential Angst"
wrote:

http://money.msn.com/saving-money/10...5877&GT1=33026

The first listing, Sandusky, Ohio, gives the articles sources.

Michigan, Ohio, Indiana seem to dominate -- haven't checked the
geography,
but mebbe all close to mfr'g towns? Elkhart, Indiana f'sure.
But Cumberland, Md-W. Va (not dat far from me) was a bit of a surprise --
altho anything with W. Va. could explain "cheap".

I thought Tennessee might be in there (TVA), and KY, but apparently lots
of
retirees are flocking there, running up prices. And with smaller
mosquitoes
than in Florida....

Note the relatively high crime rate in Fairbanks, about 6x Elkhart, Ind.
Most in the middle.

And the other Q is, Are these place also good for a bidniss??
Food fer thought.

Given that Michigan, California and Illinois are the top 3 WORST
economic basketcase states........

My dad has his house up for sale in Michigan. Grayling Michigan.

The town is dying.

It used to be a decent place to live..and he is leaving after nearly 40
yrs in that house. He and I built it...and its georgious, on acreage.
And a doublewide in a park in So. Cal sells for more by a significant
amount.

Until the right wingnut hacks got a hold of this counrty. Now the US
of A will never be the same.

Pitty.