"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message
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I see that you are not answering the question...

I see that you're intent on badgering me.

So were you happy drawing minimum wage?

Again, I was happy with my humble income----which was more than one that
held a job working as a machinist, and less than those that tend to work
just for money.

Are you asking if I made shop rate? If so, yes, I normally did.

If not, did you pay yourself more for the same quality of work?
At this point I'm beginning to understand why you're not well liked here.

As I said, I didn't work better or worse for my customers, especially not
based on money. I always gave each job my undivided attention, and produced
the best possible quality, according to my skill level and ability. Money
played no role in my output. Being a human, and subject to mistakes, there
were occasions where I misquoted work and ended up working for less than
shop rate. There were also occasions where a job went better than I
expected and I made more than shop rate. Your question is not relevant in
my circumstances, because my income was based on many variables. It's not
like hiring in a job where one is paid hourly or on salary.

History shows that management almost to the one will short those who
work for them..the people who generate the productivity that creates
the compensation for the management.

Sites, please. At this point, your comments have little value to me. I'm
sure you understand.

It doesn't appear to me that auto workers were short changed by management.
In fact, far from it. Sure, their crooked union wanted them to think they
were worth $100/hour, but their jobs simply weren't, so, coupled with their
inferior workmanship, we now see Detroit as a losing proposition that
struggles to compete. That's more than enough evidence for me, by the way.

Mean time, you obviously do not know a friend of mine, who takes very good
care of his employees, and has no visions of treating them poorly. He
operates a carbide sharpening service in Utah, by the way, and turns out
exceptional quality for a fair price.

Makes me wonder what you've done in your life to warrant the kind to
treatment you apparently are speaking of. Are you one of those I've been
speaking of that has little talent and expects unearned money? Such people
are always the victim, when, in fact, they get more than they deserve---and
certainly more than they earn.

Once in a great while you will hear of a story of an owner paying the
employees what he is getting...another version is that the boss gives
the employees the business when he has retires.

Did you do either of these things Harold?

Again, you're trying to get my goat, but I'm on to you. You clearly are
ignoring the fact that you were told that I worked for myself, alone. I
didn't hire people, because I'm all too aware that they will disappoint.
Those that won't aren't looking for a job---they're busy running their own
business.

I think you and I have discussed this issue as far as it's going to get
discussed. I'm tired of your badgering.

Harold