On 10/15/2011 5:06 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:11:26 -0500, "David R.
wrote:

On 10/14/2011 8:44 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:51:17 -0500,
wrote:


Regarding the ATF form 4473, that form is kept in the possession of the
DEALER and is not communicated in any way to the federal government. If, and
only if, the dealer goes out of business, he must box up all his 4473 forms
and send them to the ATF.

Unless...an ATF drone comes into the shop and asks to see the records.
He/She/It is allowed to copy any and all information from those forms
and take it with them. The form stays with the dealer...but the
information goes off to LaLa land .

Nope, ATF can ask only for specific forms for a specific gun while
following a paper trail. They may try to lean on a dealer to get more
general info, but if he's kept his books properly, he doesn't have to
let them see anything but a specific 4473 and it's entry in his bound book.

Thats what the legalities say. Try denying any ATF agent access to your
forms..and see how long you stay in business.

I never said denying access to what they are legally allowed to see. If
they want more, that's what lawyers are for. IME, if you stand up to
them, they back down.

David