On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:08:36 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 10/9/2011 5:23 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:05:48 -0500, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

Have you priced a Powermatic or The new Unisaw "with out" any the blade
brake lately?

I linked to a price sheet in my earlier post, but the aim there was
looking for the lowest price. Dayum, Delter sure is proud of their
saws nowadays! http://www.toolseeker.com/WdWkMac/TableSaw.htm
Griz and the majority of the rest, even the Lagunas, are under $2k.

Oh, I see that SawStop finally has a sub-$2k saw on the market. I
thought they were all about $3500. I sit corrected.


Are you normally this ignorant or do you simply have a
bug up your butt?

Um, -now- who's got the bug? BUT, Leon, do you feel that the
lawsuit we're discussing here is good and just? Or do you feel as most
of us do that it's a farce and a complete miscarriage of justice?


If you are talking about the dip that cut his finger off and won the
$1m, no that was stupid. Nor do I think that the government should say
that the SawStop technology should be mandatory. Having said that I
still admire and like the SawStop. When it comes to my safety politics
and ill feelings don't factor in. If I buy a new saw it will most
likely a SawStop.

I just can't support anyone doing underhanded business any more. I
stopped with Sears 30 years ago and won't start with Gass today.


Safer tools are a good concept and I'll likely buy some when I'm ready
(read "funded"), but not from SawStop. To say that I dislike Gass'
tactics is a major understatement.

Well there is where you and I differ. I don't let my emotions keep me
from making a sensible decision. Because you are interested you know
about the Gass tactics.



I assure you, you buy products now that you
would feel the same about if you knew the politics involved. Take freon
for instance. R12 was perfectly adequate. But DuPont's patent ran out
and the new refrigerant that they developed was mandated to be used. Now
if you want to talk about percentages of price increase, I used to buy
R12, 1,000 cases at a time at about 67 cents per pound. IRC a 30 lb
bottle of the r128 sold in the $200.00 range.

The old R12 was supposedly bad for the ozone layer which is still a
supposed problem although R12 is all but gone. The refrigerant that
replaced R12 was friendlier to the ozone, but more harmful to humans.
There were very strict rules and special equipment to contain the new
freon even though it was environmentally friendly, except to humans.
They did not want any more than necessary any human contact. There were
numerous publications concerning that in the automotive trades magazines
back in the mid 80's.

I was there, doing auto A/C when the law took effect. Uckinfay
Eeniesgray. From there, they went on to spotted owls, the elusive
Devil's Hole Pupfish, silicone implant terrors, and AGWK.

God help us!


The SawStop story pails by comparison.

I understand that it pales, too. :^)

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Never trouble another for what you can do for yourself.
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