On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 10:33:57 -0500, technomaNge wrote:

On 10/09/2011 04:33 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:


The .50-caliber Bandit sends a 180+-grain ball downrange at a trifle
more than 800 f.p.s.,

Just about what a 38 S&W pistol does. NOT a 38 Special.....

Which is considered in the low end of self defense rounds out of a
handgun.


I seem to remember that is similar to a Colt 45 round's speed.
Do you consider a 45 to be at the low end in self defense?


technomaNge

The 45 Colt doesnt use a round ball weighting 180 grs. nor does it use a
..44 diameter projectile.

While it will kill...one should remember one is comparing a handgun
cartridge to a rifle.

It would be good enough for coyotes at most..at close ranges.

Given that a simple black powder charge will launch that same ball at
1800 FPS...over 2x the velocity.....

Not running down the rifle by anymeans. Its intersting and has some
value in certain applications indeed!

But one must keep in mind that the Austrians who used pneumatic arms
first in war..used .69 caliber and larger rounds......at double the
weight..in a conflict where simply wounding a man took him out of
battle...using a slow and small projectile to Kill an animal..might not
be optimal.

Given all that, Id love to have one of the rifles, just to putter with.

Gunner

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