In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:41:52 -0700 (PDT), NT wrote:

That's something I dislike about modern cars. With oldies one can
always use the handbrake if the main brake fails.

Depends on the "oldie" some have transmission brakes rather than a
brake that acts on the wheels. One has to be very cautious how one
applies it if moving, same applies to modern cars that also have
transmission brakes.

Land Rover Defenders still have.
--
hugh