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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in
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On 8/11/2011 7:18 AM, Han wrote:
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On Aug 10, 9:37 pm, wrote:

I am not sure that organized labor isn't featherbedding some of
their members, but generally speaking, undoing labor contracts in
such a fell swoop to such an extent is not fair. My daughter and
son-in- law are
both high school teachers in NJ, and the changes in their
remuneration (much higher deductions for healthcare and pensions)
makes them feel lucky they have help nearby.

But making us poor slobs in the community where the teachers work
pay more and more and more in taxes whenever our health care
insurance costs go up and up and up and our gross pay stays the same
and being told pensions are a thing of the past is FAIR somehow??


"You" have given these people contracts, that "you" now are going to
just throw out? Once you go that way, maybe the next step is that
your pension/SS/whatever will be taken away. "You" is in quotes
because the sheeple of NJ have allowed their representatives to do
this.

I don't know where you live, but in NJ the legislature has
consistently allowed the state NOT to pay into the teachers'
(police/whatever) pension plans. Now, gov christie says, OK, you
teachers need to pay more, but what of the unfunded state
obligations? It almost seems that the state stealing from the
pension plans is OK, and the pensioners better fend for themselves.


If the contract seems too good to be true.... A contract with the
state is in essence a contract with a pollination. Now days the young
starting out better be responsible and depend on their own resources
to fund their pensions.


?pollination?? Some would think that a fringe benefit like a pension
from a (quasi)governmental organization should be trustworthy. That is a
rude awakening around here.

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Best regards
Han
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