Spehro Pefhany on Tue, 26 Jul 2011
10:28:06 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:43:45 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

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pyotr filipivich wrote:
on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:14:08 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

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No problem. Just leave grandpappy and his braids in the car.

LOL.

I resemble that remark.

Yesterday I had a discussion with a manager of a group
of four people about 'interview skill'.
She told me that her most valuable employees are precisely
those that interviewed the *worst*. She has two in
particular that are smart, hard working, trustworthy and
valuable. The first is not particularly articulate in
an interview setting and the second insisted on asking
questions about benefits and vacation time!

I think the interview appeals to our Western
Linear Thinking. Unfortunately it may not be nearly
as valuable as we think it is.

One problem with is is that the people conducting the interview don't do
interviewing for a living so they're as lost as the interviewee.

A person who interviews well treats it as a sale, presents a successful
pitch, and closes the deal, which is fine if you're hiring salesmen.

Took me a long time to figure this out.

Yes, that's true, but if you're hiring technical folks you need to
have someone technical participating in the interview. I like to ask
questions like (reading from resume) "last year you did ..., could you
just draw a block diagram on the whiteboard of the ...", or "could you
explain how you chose the ... for the ...". It instantly exposes
folks that claim all sorts of things that they never did.. perhaps
they "participated" in a project but did not have the level of
responsibility they claim (and unfortunately there are MANY such
people, and they tend to get through the filters because they are more
than willing to bend the truth).

"Experienced with MS Office Suite" (But I don't use it often,
prefer not to, don't like it, consider it a collection of bloatware.)

There is, to me, a difference between "I have done X, and can do
X, but have no interest in doing X if I don't have to", and "I've done
X and like doing it."

Or as I once pondered "the difference between being lazy, and
patient, is ...?" whether what you're "not doing" is advantageous.
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
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