On 7/4/2011 2:37 PM, bob haller wrote:

the photo shows a white wire attached to the K&T and taped up.

Thisa is not a original K&T splice.

Its time to upgrade....

The picture shows a 1960's era Romex cable spliced into the K&T. It
would be advisable to remove that violation

most K&T homes are filled with such violations and some may be
hidden behind walls etc in places with no way to easily inspect.

haller has an Ouija board and he knows.


Things change over 70 to 100 years. homeowners modify things on the
cheap.

haller took psychology 3 and he knows.


the possiblity of such issues on such a old home are great.

haller is fond of FUD.


and exactly how would any electrician inspect wiring covered with
walls? remember splices in K&T arent in boxes......

How does anyone find the "creative" wiring added to any system?

How about old non-ground romex buried in insulation. The wires are next
to each other in case of a problem. K&T they are separated. And the wire
insulation is not adequate for insulation burial.


worse K&T was designed for operation in open air. insulation shouldnt
be around K&T/

The code change was not based on data. The chief electrical inspector in
Minneapolis, which has lots of K&T in insulation, said he had not seen a
problem. Haler posted a link from an agency in his own state that
installs insulation around K&T

State code for insulation around K&T varies. Like in his own state.


even if a homebuyer was able to get homeowners insurance given energy
costs today the buyer would likely want insulation which requires a
rewire.

As people have made clear in the past, insurance companies may or may
not care.

In one challenge to insurance denial the insurance company was reversed
by the state insurance regulator because the insurance company provided
no actuarial basis for the denial.


nothing lasts forever K&T is obsolete just like a 1940s car. newer
cars are much safer and efficent

How old are you? Have you watched Soylent Green?

K&T is still in the NEC.


I would give a definitive answer, but my Ouija board broke just last
week. When my board is down I listen to RBM.

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