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Mark & Juanita
 
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Mark & Juanita wrote:



... and at least when I was going through college in the late '70s,
early 80s, the professors in those fields would tell the class that
their goal should be the "joy of learning" or "to become a well-rounded
and educated individual". Those of us in the engineering curriculum
would simply nod, fulfill the course requirements, and move on, somehow
knowing that there should have been more than a little bit of motivation
to find something that would provide value for someone in the future as
well.




That's the crime, at one time higher education was about learning. Now colleges
and universities are about getting jobs.


... and what were the people who left college after "the learning"
supposed to do? There needs to be a balance of learning for learning's
sake as well as learning for the purpose of providing the student a
future beyond college.

When the focus shifted one result was a major increase in graduates thinking
they learned everything they needed to learn in school. Usually it takes someone
with a little formal power, such as an employer, to break this thinking.
Unfortunately it's never completely broken. Try telling an engineer something
contrary to their book learning that you've learned from experience and personal
observation and unless you happen to hold an advanced degree they don't want to
believe you.


... in most cases, the good engineers will listen to experience.
OTOH, I have seen people "with experience" trying to tell engineers how
things should be, the problem is that those "experienced" people did not
see the big picture, in many cases, their experienced opinion would work
in a single, isolated instance, but the problem being solved required a
solution that could maintain operability in even the 3 to 5 sigma
operating conditions.


Another result was the teaching of the test and how to puke answers instead of
thinking. This is becoming rampant.



When I was in engineering school, the arts & sciences classes were
those that "taught the test" (in a number of instances, in other
instances they at least told you where the answers were to be found.
Most of the engineering tests I took were tests where the professor felt
that the test itself should be a "learning experience" That typically
meant that whatever you learned during the coursework leading up to the
test, and all of the homework problems you had worked were useless, the
test was going to be about something completely different.

The other "fun" classes were those where it seemed that the pre-
requisite for the course was a full and complete working knowledge of
all the material to be covered in the class.




--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


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