On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 11:16:13 GMT, "markm"
wrote:

They have a saying where I work, "you own your own employability". I've
also seen quite a few people laid off over the years but somehow the fit
survive. That is, the ones that I considered sharp land on their feed and
the majority of the others, well, deserved what they got. I too am a
software engineer but have to admit that it's highly overrated, any idiot
can do this **** but only a few of us have a clue.


Unfortunately, any idiot can't do this ****, but thinks he can. And,
if he's a good BSer, the management don't usually know the difference.
Course, I'm sure there are places where this isn't true, but...



As for out sourcing, we have been sending quite a few jobs to China and
India. And I have to admit the Indians work like dogs for dirt and many are
sharp. The Chinese on the other hand work like dogs for dirt J They IMHO
are over-educated idiots but they get paid 1/10 or less that myself and it
only takes 3 or 4 of them to keep up with me, you do the math. There is no
loyalty when it comes to money and we all reap what we sow. Something to
think about next time you drive your Tyodie over to Walmart to buy some
cheap chink **** because "you can't beat the prices". That was taken form
an interview I saw of laid off Walmart workers complaining about being
unemployed and jobs and goods from overseas. When asked if they still
shopped there they said "well yah, you can't beat the prices".


Those Toyotas are some of the best, most reliable cars made and aren't
exactly the caliber of what I'd guess you'd find at WallyWorld. If
the 'muricans back then realized they had to make a decent product,
those durn furriners wouldn't have taken their market away from them.
You'll note full size trucks are on the hit list next. Shame this
country can't be at the top of the auto quality list.

Renata


It's all driven by the consumer; you want high wages but cheap ****. So way
does anybody owe you anything and why should they be "loyal" to you?



I'm just glad that I'll probably, with luck, reach a comfortable retirement
before we have completely destroyed this wonderful country and it's economy.

"Phisherman" wrote in message
.. .
I'm an experienced software developer, now unemployed. Bush says I
should change jobs, but software is what I know and have been doing
for 30 years. I could go back to college, but by that time I'll have
8 more years to work until retirement. Right now, I have no insurance
and no plans to buy anything. I can't blame the government for my
situation, but I hate Bush telling me the solution is "to change
professions." I won't change my work, but I will change my vote!