On Wed, 11 May 2011 22:59:25 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 May 2011 17:48:38 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:42:32 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote:

In article ,
Larry Jaques wrote:
Are you running your carb dry at the end of the season? (I never
have.) Is your choke working properly?

I have never run the carb dry, but given the volatility theory it might
be a good idea. Can't hurt, anyway.

The choke does work properly, now, but has been a problem in the past.
The clamp that holds the throttle cable tends to creep over time.

A loose choke cable is a sure way to have trouble starting it.


Go here and sign the petition: http://pure-gas.org/

Or better, call your congresscritters and tell them to stop wasting your
taxpayer dollars on such things.

Ayup. Both might even be better.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel

Farmers are getting a whole lot more for their corn, edible or not,
because they get even more subsidies for corn as fuel. I recall some
article saying that they're getting paid by the acre, not the bushel,
so some of the corporate farms are phasing out other crops and
planting some corn there, too.

The farmers know what market they are growing stuff for, so they won't
bother making corn intended for ethanol production be food grade.

Twue.


Gas stations make more profits because it takes 12% more E-10 blend to
go the same distance as pure gas due to the loss of BTU output.
(Where's the supposed energy savings, folks?)

I'm not sure I believe this, as prices are set by the open market, and
are largely set by the world oil market.

Huh? I was primarily talking about ethanol's lack of efficiency and
you pick up on the pricing? Well, gas station owners make a set price
per gallon, so they're selling at least 12% more gallons due to the
efficiency, so they're making at least a 12% higher profit. It's the
oil companies who really cash in on the futures markets, selling it
between themselves up to 100 times (on paper) before it's sold to the
market (if one article I read was true.)

Someone's numbers are off. E10 makes for a 5% difference in
consumption, not 12%. And the service station guy makes the same
amount per liter or gallon regardless of the selling price.
Depends whether it is self serve (in most places, virtually ALL is
self serve) or full service.
When I last operated a service station we gor 3.5 cents a gallon on
the self serve pumps and 5 cents a gallon on the full serve. That was
a few years ago, of course, but the oil companies have not been overly
generous as of late.

Someone's numbers are from careful observation of their mileage on
their own vehicle and from their own pocketbook. I lost 12% in gas
mileage when Oregon switched to E10. That means they're selling 12%
more gas than they were, and making an extra profit on it.

The only cites I've seen say 10%, but I'd like to see your cite for
5%, clare.

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