"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:29:21 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Obama is a natural born American citizen.

The only American citizens who are not "natural born" are those who
immigrated (legally) and then did the whole citizenship thing. Being
born in another country is still "natural born" if one or both of your
parents are American citizens. The "birthers" whining about this are
simply morons, whether they are racist or not.

Im surprised you are ignorant of the subject.. A pity indeed.

Why Obama cannot be a natural born Citizen

A LEGAL ANALYSIS OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP

by Jim Delaney

John A. Bingham, author of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution,
which was intended to confer U.S. citizenship to the children of slaves
born in the U.S.

(Apr. 5, 2010) - Obama, born in 1961 of a U.S. Citizen mother and a
British Citizen (born in Kenya) father, was born a "U.S. Citizen" by
virtue of his mother's U.S. Citizenship...

The 14th Amendment was adopted in 1868. Just how old is this guy, anyway?
d8-)

; however, since Obama's father
was not a U.S. Citizen and thus not "attached to the U.S.," Obama, even
if born of a U.S. Citizen mother within the jurisdiction of the United
States, is not, by definition and Constitutional intent, a "natural born
Citizen" as is specifically required by Article II, Section 1 (the
Presidential Clause) of the U.S. Constitution, and is, therefore,
ineligible to serve as President.

British citizenship was conferred to Obama at birth by act of British
law. Thus, he is born of dual citizenship.

snip


John Bingham, commenting on Sec. 1992, stated that "every human being
born within the jurisdiction of the U.S. of parents [plural] not owing
allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of the
Constitution itself, a natural born citizen." (Very definitive for
purposes both of the 14th Amendment and the Presidential Clause.)

Except that John Bingham was a congressman from Ohio, not a Justice of the
Supreme Court.


See Perkins vs. ELG, US 325 (1939) ruling which provides the two
criteria expressed by Rep. John Bingham must exist before one can be
called a "natural born citizen."

Perkins vs. ELG, US 325 (1939), from the Court's opinion, citing precedents:

"Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the
United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of
his birthright. He can return to America at the age of twenty-one, and in
due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United
States."

"United States v. Wong Kim Ark, supra, p. 169 U. S. 668. As municipal law
determines how citizenship may be acquired, it follows that persons may have
a dual nationality. [Footnote 1] And the mere fact that the plaintiff may
have acquired Swedish citizenship by virtue of the operation of Swedish law
on the resumption of that citizenship by her parents does not compel the
conclusion that she has lost her own citizenship acquired under our law. As
at birth she became a citizen of the United States, that citizenship must be
deemed to continue unless she has been deprived of it through the operation
of a treaty or congressional enactment or by her voluntary action in
conformity with applicable legal principles.

"Second. It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a
child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents'
origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not
thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on
attaining majority he elects to retain that citizenship and to return to the
United States to assume its duties. [Footnote 2] "

The writer is a sophist and a phony -- just your kind of guy, Gunner.

You've really got to start being skeptical of these wingers who try to
overwhelm you with citations. If they run more than a few hundred words,
it's pretty consistent that they're just trying to give you a snow job.

Here, the clown you quote from has the audacity to make misrepresentative
quotes, attempting to show that the case says one thing, when its conclusion
was just the opposite. The whole ELG case is a flat contradiction of the
birther argument.

Better luck next time, Gunner. Or, better yet, read the damned things you're
quoting from third-hand.

--
Ed Huntress