On 03/12/2011 04:07 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:56:43 -0800, "Bob
wrote:


"Nate wrote in message
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On 03/12/2011 03:00 PM, mm wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:26:59 -0500, Nate
wrote:

Hi all

I am messing with TWO Moen "Chateau" single handle faucets with side
sprayers, with what I believe are similar problems. One I bought new at
my house, and was handed it in a box when I went to clean out because

When you went to clean out???

"the diverter was bad and I had a handyman replace it" (as I was told.

A tenant told you this?

My ex - she stayed in the house a little longer than I did.


I was not present to observe exactly what prompted the replacement.)
The other is installed in my friend's house.

The one that is still installed has had problems with the side sprayer.
Based on the deposits that I see on it, they have hard water. The
issue is that the sprayer does not stop spraying when you release the
trigger.
**

I took the sprayer from the old faucet from my house and
installed it on his hose and that one works better, but it still
dribbles water when the trigger is released, it does not completely shut
off.**

This leads me to believe that the diverter valve is not
functioning on THIS faucet as well.

**The dribbling woudl be because the sprayer valve is bad, no? Not
the diverter valve. If so, they sell heads separately. All white,
all black, black with silver trim, and one other, maybe all silver.
Six dollars at HD for a couple of those styles. Other styles at Ace,
but the one at HD matched my old one perfectly. (mine was not coming
out the opening but dribbling down from under the sprayer, down the
hose, and I had to pull the hose out to keep it from going under the
sink. Oh yeah, that's what you're talking about.

It's dribbling out of the sprayer, not down the hose.

I disassembled the one from "my" faucet (which was actually on my friend's
faucet; he borrowed it to try to get his working) and found a string of
something, looked like Teflon tape, fouling the seat. Unfortunately "his"
sprayer, which was apparently a slightly different design, was not able to be
disassembled to the point that I could disassemble the actual valve part.
However, after soaking for a couple hours, it's now working.


Isn't the dirverter valve under the main faucet, not the on/off valve
in the sprayer? I thought the diverter valve was meant, when the
sprayer was on, to stop any flow of water to the faucet itself, to
increase pressure to the sprayer, which would otherwise be less than
half of the original pressure.

snip

I believe so, yes, and I believe that it is limed up as well. Now that I've
got a reasonably functional sprayer on it, I find that I don't hear the
"snapping" noise that Tony describes, and water still dribbles out of the
aerator while using the spray nozzle. How the heck do you disassemble this
thing?

this was all I could find:

http://www.moen.com/shared/pdf/7430pt.pdf

which isn't really much help... it appears that step 1 is to remove a plug in
the handle, and I can't even see how to get that out without destroying it...
and the diverter is just shown floating in space without any indication where
it is located...

maybe I'll try disassembling "my" faucet first just so I can see what the hell
is going on in there, that way if I destroy it I at least won't have destroyed
an installed, functional faucet...

Use a allen wrench to loosen the set screw that holds the handle on. Unscrew the
top of the valve, then pull out the controll ball. The diverter is under that.


..Use the tip of a utility knife blade to carefully pry the plug out..

maybe it's already horked up then...there's nothing to pry. looks like
the only way to get it out is to drill it or punch it in (assuming that
there's room behind it.)

nate

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