On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 14:24:27 -0600, "Paul K. Dickman"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:17:13 -0600, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:11:31 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 06:04:28 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:
if everybody quits, do you think the gvnmt will cut the billions they
recieve in taxes from their budgets or just find someone or something
else
to tax?
be careful what you wish forg
Do you honestly think that the taxes brought in from tobacco sales
outweigh the massive healthcare debt brought on by sick smokers?
Actually...yes. Only 20% of smokers have medical issues related to
smoking. Yet 100% of smokers pay into the system in very big big ways.
Got any hard figures to go with that? I figured that if ten bucks per
carton went to taxes, the average 2-pack/day smoker would contribute
$730/yr for those 73 cartons. After 20 years, that's $14,600.
How much does a full diagnostic workup for cancer cost?
How much to treat emphysema?
How much does a lung resection/removal cost?
http://healthcarebluebook.com/page_R...=45&dataset=MD
Oops, you just blew THIRTY FIVE YEARS of tax payments, not including
R&R time.
How much does chemo cost?
Throat/mouth cancer treatments?
I think you're wishing here, mon. BTW, Federal taxes are only
$6.16/carton.
Your numbers are out of date. Federal taxes are now $10.10 per carton.
State
I got that from the first googled site I found with a figure. Cite?
$6.16 was the amount of the increase.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ect-wednesday/
Tobacco companies and public health advocates, longtime foes in the nicotine
battles, are trying to turn the situation to their advantage. The major
cigarette makers raised prices a couple of weeks ago, partly to offset any
drop in profits once the per-pack tax climbs from 39 cents to $1.01.
and local add to that. Around here the taxes are about $47 per carton not
including sales tax.
$47 in taxes for, what, a $55 carton? GET REAL! Cites, please.
http://www.galesburg.com/archive/x54...-kicking-habit
Cigarettes in Illinois cost $49 to $55 a carton - with 10 packs in acarton -
outside the Chicago area. A carton is $90 to $95 in Chicago becauseof
additional taxes imposed by Cook County and the city of Chicago,according
to Harry "Bud" Kelley, executive director of the Association of Tobacco
and Candy Distributors.
Holy ****, Maynard! I sit corrected. It might be cheaper to hire a
moving van and move out of IlliNOISE than pay their ciggy taxes.
The median tax (Fed + State not including local) is $23.49 per carton.
Cite?
http://www.tobaccofreekids.org/resea...s/pdf/0097.pdf Table
shows all cigarette tax rates in effect now. Since 2002, 47 states,DC,
and several U.S. territories have increased their cigarette tax
ratesmore than 100 times. The three states in bold type have not
increased theircigarette tax since 1999 or earlier. Currently, 29
states, DC, Puerto Rico,the Northern Marianas, and Guam have cigarette
tax rates of $1.00 per packor higher; 14 states, DC, and Guam have
cigarette tax rates of $2.00 perpack or
higher; five states and Guam have cigarette tax rates of $3.00 perpack
or higher; and one state (NY) has a cigarette tax rate more than
$4.00per pack. Tobacco states are KY, VA, NC, SC, GA, and TN. States'
averageincludes DC, but not Puerto Rico, other U.S. territories, or
local cigarettetaxes. The median tax rate is $1.339 per pack. AK, MI,
MN, MS, UT also havespecial taxes or fees on brands of manufacturers
not participating in thestate tobacco lawsuit settlements (NPMs
I don't know what the current numbers are, but Hills study from the 50's
showed an increased mortality rate for lung cancer and cardiovascular
disease among cigarette smoking doctors at 3.42 per 1000 person years. So
the 20% may be a reasonable number.
Cite?
http://www.cdc.gov/excite/classroom/smoking_q.pdf Excess Deaths per 1000
Person-YearsLung Cancer 1.23Cardiovascular Disease 2.19
So, a thousand people smoke for 20 years. Collectively they pay $343milliondollars into the fund. 200 get sick that
leaves them 1.7 million each fortreatment.
Redo the figures with real numbers, Paul.
I did. If you check my reply to myself, I made a mistake on my first
calculations, I added an extra zero. The patients only get $170,000.
I suppose that it is possible for the taxes to pay for it, then, all
other figures withstanding, in some states.
P.S: I spent 5 minutes reformatting the response you sent. Next time,
please leave a space between quoted text and the response, or add a
line and then insert your response, please. Also add a space between
the link and the following text. sigh
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of man on Earth, or we will sentence them to take
the last step into a thousand years of darkness.?
-- Ronald Reagan