On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:59:54 -0800, Rich Grise
wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:

I can't ever imagine the military EVER being used against or turn against
citizens.

Can you say, "Ruby Ridge?" "Kent State?" "Waco?"

Yeah, yeah, that was "only" the FBI and the National Guard, but what's
really the difference?

Thanks,
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Well the FBI isnt military at all, and the National Guard is to be used
only Inside the US, while the Federal military is to be only used
outside of it.

And what do you think will happen if suddenly 20 McVeighs rise up and
attack?

Utter chaos will reign supreme for months.

Btw..including the Kent State event in the other two is utterly
disengenious. Those poor *******s were poorly trained, and put between
a rock and a hard place. If they had been well trained..the bod count
would have been MUCH higher than 4 dead and 15 wounded.

Hell..a squad of Iraq War vets (12 men) COULD have slaughtered the
crowd and gone to the bar for a beer and pizza afterwards.

In Ruby Ridge and Waco..it was the Non Military ABC organizations which
caused the trouble and the deaths (with some help from Delta if the
reports are true)

As Ive stated before..the Revolutionary War was fought by 10% of the
population. In todays numbers..thats 31 Million individuals.
A large number of whom are miltiary trained, active hunters and shooters
and so forth. Very well armed, very well trained and able to pick off
just about anyone they consider to be an enemy. Be it Leftwinger,
police officer, military commander down to the lowest PFC.

Our miltary and law enforcement organizations..in total...every
swinging dick and bra rack is less than 4 million men and women.

Against 31 million ****ed off, SMART and well armed men and women.
The largest army on the planet. All with a copy of Von Clauswitz and Sun
Tzu in their pockets.

And they wouldnt be fighting set piece battles where superior miltary
tech can make a difference. Hit and move. Small unit tactics would be
Big Affairs.

Some poor ******* is filling up his vehicle at a fuel blivit...some one
from the shadows puts a 7mm Mag round up his nose. Then busts the
blivet and lites it on fire.
A group of helo pilots is sitting down for food at a restaurant..and
they get served burgers laced with rat poison or a grenade is rolled
under their table..or served in the chicken basket.

Shrug..31 million Americans have a high tech, well educated, nasty,
cruel, evil minded core..and the combined military/law enforcement/ABC
agencies have a very limited effective number....which would be
diminishing rapidly in a very short period of time.

RC airplanes. Hell...every town has a club or a group of guys who fly
em. Think a Piper Cub RC plane with a pound of C4 in its guts cant be
used effectively as a guided missile? Think one flown into the side of
a Blackhawk chopper wouldnt kill it?

The list is endless. If the Gubmint was smart..they would surrender 10
minutes after the whoopdeedo started. But...they arent smart.
Professional politicians btw...would be slaughtered quickly. And then
they would either retire, den up in DC etc etc..and no longer be able to
direct the military or other agencies. Think how many phone company
guys would be part of that 31 million......and electrical workers..and
plumbers.... and ...

Ive always laughed about the idea of Fema camps being used to lock up
the population. They could hold a few thousands for a period of time.
Indeed. Then that 31 million would come down on them like stink on ****.
Fema leaders would be terminated, suppliers would stop feeding the
guards, power and water would be turned off. No fuel could be
delivered..it would be marked by blazing remains of tanker trucks....

A very nasty bit of business for the survivors..and the dead.
Hence my prayers that such a thing doesnt happen.

Though to be truthful..Im not praying as hard anymore. It might indeed
be time for such a wake up for America.

And a good house cleaning.

Gunner







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