On Dec 22, 12:23*pm, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:
On 12/22/10 04:06 am, David Nebenzahl wrote:





The problem in America is simple greed and aquisitiveness. Also, the
instant gratification syndrome. We have it here too but not near as
bad.

I see you basically skirted my questions. Tell us more about how you
"have it here too"; that's what I was getting at. It's not as if we (the
U.S.) are the source of *all* that's wrong in the world.

Also the turkeys vote for Christmas. ie the blue collar workers vote
for republicans, amazing to Europeans.

Ah, so that never happens in Yurp, right? Berlusconi? Sarkozy? Chirac?
(at least it wasn't Le Pen!). And let's not forget that Aussie, Rupert
Murdoch. And how about that thug who just stole the election in Belarus?

They all believe that one day, some time they might get to be rich.
The truth is that to be rich needs a very special mentality. They
need to want not just enough money, they want it ALL. They don't care
about anyone else. We call it "pulling the bridge up after you."

Well, my friend, it's happening all over the world. Like in Russia. Even
India and China are on the beginning cusp of this phenomenon.

Yearning after this chimera, the poor get themselves into debt for all
the material things, houses, cars etc. Their brains are conditioned
by TV and Hollywood, a deliberate ploy by the wealthy. We have now
got to the stage where not only have the rich taken all the poor's
Money they have taken all the taxpayer's money, plus money that
doesn't exist but the poor are going to have to pay back anyway.
The rich have found a way to steal the future.

All done by Bush and Republicans.

That's where you're wrong. Leaving aside the issue that this is not
limited to the U.S., it should be clear to any honest observer that the
ongoing wrong-headed approach to the economy, specifically the
robbing-the-poor-to-further-enrich-the-rich part, is now being carried
out by Democrats headed by Barack Obama. Despite their wailings of "the
Republicans made us do it!", just look at Obama's appointments: all of
them tried and true Wall Streeters to a man.

Yes. Despite the Republican denunciations of Obama and the Democrats as
"socialist," they are only slightly less capitalist than the
Republicans. The present-day Democrats are the counterpart of Britain's
"New Labour": barely distinguishable from "Old Conservative." I wonder
how many of the people who stayed home last Election Day were Democrats
who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Democrats who behaved like
Republicans. Some people who had voted Democrat in the previous election
may even have voted Republican this year because at least the
Republicans are honest about being Republicans. Obama campaigned on a
promise of "Change," but I haven't seen much. Even the health-care bill
pours still more money into the health-care industry for somewhat more
accessible health care for many people, but not what should have been
done: a public alternative, with those who do not show evidence of
having private health insurance being enrolled by default in the public
scheme -- in addition, of course, to those who chose the public scheme
in the first place.

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Yes, you're right about politics over here. Hard to see the difference
between them these days. (All scum too.)
I think Obama means well but has/had an insufficient majority/support.
Defeated by the system.
This thing about not want universal health care is baffling to
Europeans.
I suppose the rich just use your insurance system to coin yet more
money out of the poor. There's nothing lower than profiting out of
someone's ill health/misfortune.