On Dec 22, 9:06*am, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 12/22/2010 12:44 AM harry spake thus:







On Dec 21, 7:28 pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 12/21/2010 7:46 AM harry spake thus:

I am from the UK. I love to tease the Yanks.

We get it. We get it. We get it.

They can't grasp what is wrong with their cult.

'K, true 'nuff.

But good post. Interesting. *I think the PIGS (Portugal, Italy,
Ireland, Greece and Spain are well down the tube. *They will end up
cut away from the Euro.

So tell us, Harry, why do you think you Yurpeens are all that much
better than us Merkins?

OK, granted, you (UK) have a *huge* advantage with your National Health
Service, something that'll probably never happen here. Along with some
other *vestigial* remains of, let's call it what it is, socialism.

But clearly the *entire world* is now going the way of the U.S., which
is to say in a totally neoliberal, market-driven, profits-uber-alles
direction, where if things go bad because of speculation and bubble
markets, the gov't imposes austerity measures (witness: Ireland), the
general public be damned.

After all, Harry, you've got those mobs of students in London smashing
things up, right? I can certainly understand why they're out there.

So no, it's not just the Big Bad U.S. that's to blame. Though arguably
we were the *origin* of the problem, what with the "American Century"
and all, it's now metastasized to the entire world. Including China, I'd
say.

The problem in America is simple greed and aquisitiveness. *Also, the
instant gratification syndrome. *We have it here too but not near as
bad.

I see you basically skirted my questions. Tell us more about how you
"have it here too"; that's what I was getting at. It's not as if we (the
U.S.) are the source of *all* that's wrong in the world.

Also the turkeys vote for Christmas. ie the blue collar workers vote
for republicans, amazing to Europeans.

Ah, so that never happens in Yurp, right? Berlusconi? Sarkozy? Chirac?
(at least it wasn't Le Pen!). And let's not forget that Aussie, Rupert
Murdoch. And how about that thug who just stole the election in Belarus?

They all believe that one day, some time they might get to be rich.
The truth is that to be rich needs a very special mentality. *They
need to want not just enough money, they want it ALL. *They don't care
about anyone else. We call it "pulling the bridge up after you."

Well, my friend, it's happening all over the world. Like in Russia. Even
India and China are on the beginning cusp of this phenomenon.

Yearning after this chimera, the poor get themselves into debt for all
the material things, houses, cars etc. * Their brains are conditioned
by TV and Hollywood, a deliberate ploy by the wealthy. We have now
got *to the stage where not only have the rich taken all the poor's
Money they have taken all the taxpayer's money, plus money that
doesn't exist but the poor are going to have to pay back anyway.
The rich have found a way to steal the future.

All done by Bush and Republicans.

That's where you're wrong. Leaving aside the issue that this is not
limited to the U.S., it should be clear to any honest observer that the
ongoing wrong-headed approach to the economy, specifically the
robbing-the-poor-to-further-enrich-the-rich part, is now being carried
out by Democrats headed by Barack Obama. Despite their wailings of "the
Republicans made us do it!", just look at Obama's appointments: all of
them tried and true Wall Streeters to a man.

Bush and his party may have started the current round of squeezing the
toothpaste of wealth towards the top of the tube, but that work is now
being enthusiastically carried out on a bipartisan basis. (And this
despite the absurd claims of some here on this NG and elsewhere about
what a "socialist" and a "Marxist" Obama is. Puleeze; if only.)

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Obama is not a Marxist or a socialist. The people that claim this
don't know what socialism is.. But your right, he's in the pockets of
the wealthy too. That's exactly why there's no hope. There is no party
for the ordinary American worker.
Time for another revolution. Against your own government.
The first one was only so the rich wouldn't have to pay their taxes.
Nothing's changed since then. Your bill of rights is only for the
wealthy. Exactly as the Magna Carta was only for the wealthy in the
UK. Things are getting worse too not better. They keep you down with
a fear culture.
I wonder how long it will be before they start putting Americans in
Gitmo.