View Single Post
  #102   Report Post  
Posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
Pete C. Pete C. is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,746
Default Generac Guardian Generators


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:45:16 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 07:19:17 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:04:27 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:

The guy was killed because he was careless and disobeyed both company
and OSHA safety regulations. The guy who provided the electrons the
lineman committed suicide with is in no way responsible.

Sorry, Pete, but it takes two to fry an idiot. I think most of us will
disagree with you on that last statement. Yes, an idiot lineman who
doesn't act carefully is -most- responsible, but the asswipe who
charged the power line he was working on was also responsible for his
death.

Sorry, if the lineman followed mandatory procedures he would be alive.

Yes, the odds were much higher if he'd followed procedure.


Not "much higher", they would have been 100%. A properly grounded line
will not go hot.


Who's to say he wouldn't have fallen and killed himself even after
grounding if it sparked when he did so? (bait, no response necessary)


All work is performed with full hot line gear until the line is
grounded. Linemen are quite used to sparking connections.


It's safety related and does matter. Do you think if that some idiot
in the power plant had told him that the power was down (when it
wasn't) that his head wouldn't roll for attempted murder (or murder)
of the lineman?


Linemen are regularly enabled to kill themselves by uncoordinated line
crews (especially with contract crews during a big storm cleanup), by
branches falling and removing a short followed by reclosers reclosing,
and numerous other sources. In all case the difference between dead and
safe comes down to the lineman's compliance with safety procedures - the
fault is his own.


OK, you got it, the death is on the lineman alone.

But the idiot who fed back his genset is still guilty of a crime. I
mean, it's not like the salesman, the manual, TV, and most of his
neighbors hadn't warned him about pulling that stunt.


Yea, code violation - cease and desist, pay $100 permit fee and do it
correctly. That is if he's in an area that requires permits, if not - no
code, no crime (no permits where I am).