On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:08:00 -0600, "Pete C."
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Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:18:58 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:00:03 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 08:03:31 -0600, "Pete C."
wrote:



Its a life taker if you do.

That's the claim, however I've yet to find any incident report that
supports that claim. In every "lineman killed by improperly connected
generator" report I've read (and I've read quite a few) the ultimate
cause of the incident and fatality was the lineman failing to follow
their mandatory procedures and ground the line before working on it.

No...the ultimate cause of the fatality was some yutz not disconnecting
from the main while running a generator.

Cites? I've read numerous OSHA accident reports and not one supported
that conclusion.

http://www.electricenergyonline.com/..._news&id=38786

Oddly enough..that was right at the top of the google search list...

Sorry, but that in no way supports you claim and is also not an OSHA
report. There is no "supposed to be dead" in the lineman's handbook,
there is only "tested and grounded before working bare handed", a
mandatory procedure that will prevent injury in *all* generator back
feed cases as well as the many cases of poor coordination between line
crews.

Is the man dead or not as the result of some schlub not taking his genny
off the mains?

The factual answer to that question is "no". The man is dead due to his
failure to follow company and OSHA mandatory safety procedures. No
amount of emotion changes that fact.

Fascinating. So you have to be one of those Leftwingers ...blame the
victim.




You will note that there are at least 30 articles from various
newspapers recounting his death. He may not have grounded his line.

Yep, and not grounding that line per mandatory safety procedures is what
killed him. The source of the electrons, be they from a private
generator or the utility's generator is irrelevant.


And if that person didnt put on their seatbelt...they were still killed
by the drunk driver.

Not a valid analogy. The mandatory grounding procedure is a 100%
assurance against electrocution.

Wearing a seatbelt is a 90%er.

Weasel all you want..the guy was killed by a schlub who wired up genset
the 1000% WRONG WAY!

Gunner





And in each and every case..the genny owner paid a very expensive price
for killing someone.

False convictions. The US's pathetic legal system is rife with them. I
do A/V work with a lot of attys. doing pre-trial research with test jury
pools for technical civil cases and the jurors rarely ever come up with
the correct verdict. The whole legal system is designed to select the
least qualified, most emotionally manipulatable jurors - it's just a big
scam.

No wonder Liberals havent all been killed yet. They are so easy to
manipulate.

It's generally liberal attys. manipulating the poorly educated, and that
demographic leans toward the conservative side, though the liberal side
is catching up in the "poorly educated" race. It's all part of the Great
Global Tidy Bowl Swirl (tm).

So you are saying that its been Liberal attornies who have been
manipulating the Red States?

Manipulating court cases. I've seen it first hand in both "red" and
"blue" states.

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