Steve full-quoted:

So your saying that the "reliable life span" of the new furnaces
is only 6 - 7 years??

What-ever they are, they're not going to last as long as the ones being
made 30 and 40 years ago - many of which are still functional even if
they've been replaced by new garbage.

however when correctly installed, properly adjusted, and with
correctly sized ductwork

Don't give me that "correctly installed" crap.

A furnace is a box where you connect wires and ducting and turn the
friggin thing on. It's a glorified barbeque.

Any new furnace that can't be plugged into any existing house's ductwork
and work correctly is a piece of ****.

As bad as the existing ductwork is or can be, you shouldn't have to tear
it down and re-do it just to satisfy the hyper-sensitive requirements of
a new furnace or it's delicate, wimpy ECM blower motor.

the normal lifespan is 20 - 23 years.

Pathetic.

You still cannot buy a new furnace today that *DOESN"T* have
electronics controling it.

If you mean electronics *inside* it, it's that very fact that I'm
bitching about. Just because you can't buy one that doesn't have a
frakken motherboard in it doesn't mean you can't bitch and complain how
unnecessary it is to have it.

Maybe thats why your so against the new furnaces... your got
the cheapest POS furnace you could find,

My furnace is 36 years old and is original to the house when it was
built in 1976 which I bought 11 years ago. I have no idea where this
furnace ranked in the marketplace at the time, but obviously they made
quality stuff back then, before the industry went into the toilet in the
last 10 - 20 years.

and now your not happy with it.

I'm very happy with it, and if I ever have to replace it, I'm going to
modify any new furnace I get by swapping it's ECM motor for a PSC one,
and remove the electronic ignition and replace it with a standing pilot,
and rip all the electronic flame and other sensors out of it, along with
the frakkin motherboard.