On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:22:12 -0800, Hawke
wrote:



Easy peasy, here ya go:
http://www.classfinders.com/directory/mi/grayling/2/
You do know that Gunner is Mark Weiber, right?

Entirely possible to graduate in May, enlist, do basic training and
AIT (advanced infantry training), even Ranger and Airborne schools,
and still be in-country in '71 just as the scurrilous, lyin',
still-smokin' reprobate claims in a current post.

Looks like we have to score this one for Gunner!


Not so fast. He supposedly went into the military at 17 years old and
under conditions that were suspicious, like he used a fake name. He was
only there from '71 to '73 and was supposedly working in a super
clandestine outfit.

Recollection of references to super-secret clandestine outfits eludes
me at the moment, could you please refresh?

Now do you think they would be taking a guy who just
came out of training and is what, 18 years old, and put him in some
super secret assassination outfit?

Not likely, but a Ranger Bn isn't a super-secret assassination outfit.
They're (very well) trained to be advisors.

This was the very end of the war too.
All kinds of programs were winding down
The idea they would take some
inexperienced soldier only 18 and put him in that kind of unit sounds
fishy.

I wouldn't regard a soldier of any age who wears a Ranger patch as
"inexperienced". Ranger school is 61 days of very intensive training,
some classroom but more in the field.

Like everything else he says. Is it possible? Just barely. He
could have had enough time had he graduated from high school in '71 and
gone directly into the army. But then he would have had to go directly
from training and straight into a special group doing black operations
stuff. Do they take 18 year old, green troopers for that kind of thing?

Not all 18-year-old soldiers were green troopers. If by "black ops"
you mean classified missions, young men certainly were part of such
activities.

I don't think so. So as usual you're left with having to believe things
that somehow just don't quite add up. And didn't he say he killed a
couple hundred gooks when he was in Vietnam too?

Depends on how one takes credit for kills. A few Green Berets killed
hundreds of gooks in one night at Pinkville, aka My Lai.