On Oct 16, 6:51*pm, "Robert Green" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message

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On Oct 16, 12:15 pm, "DGDevin" wrote:



"Jon Danniken" wrote in message

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I am currently using a 60W bulb for that exact purpose - to provide heat
in a small space.

Jon

When I wore a younger man's clothes I worked in oilfield camps in the
frozen
north. The big tanks of propane which provided heat for the trailers had
insulated boxes under them containing lightbulbs that were powered by the
camp diesel generator which ran 24/7. The heat from those bulbs kept the
propane from turning into a gel and not flowing to the heaters.

The very fact that an incandescent bulb produces so much heat (as opposed
to
light) from the electricity it consumes should be a hint as to why such
bulbs are no longer such a great idea. When we switched to CFLs our
electric bill took a dive. Pay more for power vs. pay less for power,
hmmmm, tough call.

"When I wore a younger man's clothes I worked in oilfield camps..

When you weren't working did you hang out in bars and listen to the
piano?

In case no one gets this, it's a reference to Billy Joel. *DD, face it,
we're from a generation whose references are becoming more and more obscure.
My teacher friend says kids don't know about a lot of things we take for
granted - the most surprising of late that they didn't know anything about
the Challenger disaster. *But "Piano Man?"

Before I got married, I dated someone about 25 years younger than me *once*
and realized how out of tune 1 generation can make you: *"This is the same
song my Dad listens to!" or "This is just like my Dad's car" to "Who was
Soupy Sales?" *If a show didn't make it to Nickelodeon or endless reruns on
WGN, it faded from history. *I am always surprised to see the hundreds
(thousands?) of one season or less TV shows that are listed.

You can probably guess when someone was born by whether they recognize
certain TV shows from their youth. *I come from the "Voyage to the Bottom of
the Sea/Disney/Bonanza/The FBI" Sunday night TV generation. *I can't quite
place any other shows to a particular day but those shows seem to stick in
my mind as family TV night shows. *I think "The Man from Uncle" would have
been Thursdays. *Now think of how meaningless the above is for someone born
in 1990. (-: *We're getting old and in the way, but only the good die young.

To keep this on thread, this is the time of the year when we pull a lot of
CFL's and replace them with incandescents just because the savings equation
changes so much when the spill heat is recoverable in terms of room heating.
Year long we don't use CFLs in stairwells, in the bathroom nor in the
overheads because they are X-10 controlled devices without a neutral wire
and the bulbs flash intolerably while on.

Now that I think about it, when I switch over to "winter mode" today I might
try 2 CFL's and one low wattage incandescent in a three bulb overhead
fixture just to see if a tungsten bulb leaks enough current to allow the
X-10 switch to operate normally. *That would be an interesting experiment
although I suspect the light would be noticeable asymetric with that sort of
bulb mix.

But I have to agree, running CFLs in the summer really does save a LOT of
electricity because the AC doesn't have to absorb all the spill heat from
tungsten bulbs by running longer.

I wonder how many cultural references in "We Didn't Start the Fire" would be
meaningful to today's kids? *Hmmm, doesn't look too good, DD. * "Johnie Ray?
Sugar Ray *Peyton Place?" *They'd ask "Where's Sookie?"

Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye"
Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye
Joseph Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc
Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, dacron
Dien Bien Phu falls, "Rock Around the Clock"
Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team
Davy Crockett, Peter Pan, Elvis Presley, Disneyland
Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Krushchev
Princess Grace, "Peyton Place", trouble in the Suez
Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac
Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, "Bridge on the River Kwai"
Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California baseball
Starkweather homicide, children of thalidomide
Buddy Holly, "Ben Hur", space monkey, Mafia
Hula hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go
U-2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy
Chubby Checker, "Psycho", Belgians in the Congo
Hemingway, Eichmann, "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs invasion
"Lawrence of Arabia", British Beatlemania
Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson
Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British politician sex
JFK, blown away, what else do I have to say
Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon back again
Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, terror on the airline
Ayatollah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan
"Wheel of Fortune", Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless vets, AIDS, crack, Bernie Goetz
Hypodermics on the shores, China's under martial law
Rock and roll, cola wars, I can't take it anymore

(My favorite was always "Space Monkey Mafia" )

--
Bobby G.

"I wonder how many cultural references in "We Didn't Start the
Fire" would be meaningful to today's kids?"

If they're interested, this is a great way to learn about those
references.

The song, with images linked to Wikipedia.

Check it out...

http://yeli.us/Flash/Fire.html