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Default Bad weld caused San Bruno pipeline explosion?

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:12:30 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 14:08:39 -0500, Ignoramus1469
wrote:

I am looking at this piece of pipe:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/09...tions-underway

and the clean end suggests to me that the entire weld failed. What do
our resident pipe weldors say? Steve? Private?

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While in one sense the disaster may indeed be the result of
a bad weld [no inspection? no x-ray?], in the larger sense,
the disaster was the easily foreseen outcome of the complete
failure to criminally prosecute the accountable directors,
officers, cadre management, and mid level supervisors for
reckless endangerment and/or negligent homicide for prior
disasters.

Fines and jury awards against the legal fiction of "the
corporation" have little or no impact on the
behaviors/actions of the people that run the corporations,
but significant individual/personal fines and especially
prison time, even short 30-90 day jail sentences, make a
deep and lasting impression and reinforce the concept that
actions [and omissions] have consequences. Huge salaries and
bonuses should come complete with large amounts of [strict]
accountability.


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
..............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).



It is scary in the big city, they don't care.

Back when I was a trouble shooter for pools I walked in the backyard
of a customer and gas smell was so bad I was afraid the heater for the
pool might have one of those old pilot lights and quickly hunted down
the leak to the main line to the house and left. As soon as I got to
the street a gas truck was rolling by, I flagged the dude down and
told him and he said he couldn't do a thing about it until the
customer called them. The customer was out of town, oh well.

Just before I left Vegas they had a run away railroad car full of
chlorine that went through the whole town and maybe 200 yards from my
kid's school. They didn't inform anyone, probably wouldn't have said a
word if someone didn't drop the ball to the press. And they told
everyone oh, it's no big deal chlorine dissipates fast. Yeah, right!
Should bust a gallon bottle in their office and see the whole building
get evacuated ASAP with people's lungs filling up with liquid. 30,000
gallons in your neighborhood, no problem.

It was no big deal about pepcon either and it burned for days and you
couldn't get away from the smell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVOUgCm5Jk

Or the nuke site down wind mormons or leaking ground water off the
site , no problem. Or the ammonium nitrate from pepcon in Calf. crops,
NP.

When ya here " Nothing to worry about", worry.

SW