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"Pete C." on Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:26:41 -0500
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:24:30 -0500, "Pete C."
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:47:55 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:

Thanks for the definition. I'd thought a cult was a following, often
religious. Led by a charismatic leader who claims some new revelation.
Had to look it up:
noun
1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to
its rites and ceremonies.


What rites and ceremonies does the SA have?


Plenty, and that definition is not exclusive to rites and ceremonies.


So you don't know, or you assume that it must be so?


2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp.
as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing,
person, ideal, etc.


Which "thing" binds them together thats different from other religious
groups?
Other than Good Works.


I didn't say that the cult definition didn't apply to other religious
groups.


So what binds the Salvation Army together? What is so different
about that "binding" element?


5. Sociology . a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites
centering around their sacred symbols.


What is their ideology and sacred symbols? Other than the crucifix and
the $ sign?


The link to their own site that Don provided shows some of their
ideology with respect to marriage outside their cult.


So, they prefer that you not marry outside the organization, and
that makes them a cult? Does the expression "be not yoked with
unbelievers" ring any bells?


6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or
extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society
under the direction of a charismatic leader.


So what part of the organization is false, unorthodox and extremist? Is
this like St Vincent de Paul..which is the Catholic charity?


Dictating that cult members must marry within the cult is certainly
considered extremist by most people, one of the reasons it made the
mainstream news when the issue came up.


Ah, so being different is what makes them a cult in your eyes.
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