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Default Dedicated Circuit: Is Junction Box Required?

On Jul 2, 10:08*pm, Evan wrote:
On Jul 2, 5:55*pm, "RBM" wrote:



"Twayne" wrote in message


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RBM typed:
"Evan" wrote in message
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On Jul 2, 4:20 pm, "RBM" wrote:
"Twayne" wrote in message


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Josh typed:
I plan on adding a dedicated 20A GFIC outlet above my
kitchen countertop, fed from a new 20A circuit breaker
via 12-2 w/ground Romex run through my attic and down
inside the wall to the outlet. Two questions:


1. Since it will be a dedicated circuit (only the one
outlet on it) does the electrical code require a junction
box between the breaker and the outlet?


2. Since the outlet will be the end of the line, is it
necessary to use wire caps and jumpers for the hot and
neutral in the outlet box, or can I simply run them
straight to the outlet terminals? I've seen the
connections drawn both ways in reference books. They all
show the wire cap and jumper to a screw for the ground
wire, but differ as to the need for wire caps and jumpers
for the other two wires.


Contact your local code enforcement office and ask them.
No one here is going to know preciesly what their
requirements are.


HTH,


Twayne`


People on this group tend to know NEC and CEC, which is
certainly the basis
for whatever local jurisdictions use. Why is it that you
think everyone has
a " local code enforcement office"? I for one, have
nothing like that in my
area.


LOL... *You do have such an office, you just live in a
large area served
by a county-wide or state-wide "local office"...


Most places in the US have a city or town wiring inspector
OR pay a fee to their county to have the county inspector conduct
the wiring inspections and sign off on the permits...


~~ Evan


Not exactly. I live in Westchester county, NY. I hold a
master electrician's license issued by the county. When I
do electrical work, depending upon the particular
jurisdiction , I hire an inspection company and I pay them
directly. There are no electrical code enforcement offices
that a citizen can call and get any information regarding
electrical requirements.


You are either weasel-wording or just outright uneducated. There IS code
enforcement, whether you choose to recognize it or not.


You constantly tell people to call their "code inforcement office" for
answers to their electrical questions. I'm saying that there is no code
inforcement office in my county or any neighboring counties. When licensed
electricians do work, we have accounts with private ,certified electrical
inspection companies.We hire them and they inspect our work. There is no
governmental office that one can call for answers to electrical questions,
and the private inspection companies are only going to tell a person to call
a licensed electrician.


LOL... *So there is no possible conflict of interest there at all...

You PAY a company to inspect, would you keep paying them if they
failed your
work... *LOL...

Who randomly spot checks various types of installations to be sure
that the codes are actually being interpreted and correctly applied...

Sounds to me you could shop around for an private inspection firm
which is less strict than another...

Tell me which state/county this is in so I will never stay in any
structure there, as they are not being inspected by an uninterested
party like the government...

~~ Evan


Evan
Get a grip. He didn't say or even infer that the system he described
is the only one to have. All he said is that it is what they have
were he does business. I too have had to work with contract
inspectors in several installations. What keeps them from playing
fast and loose with the enforcement is a principal of tort law called
harmful reliance. Since the contractor is paid by the customer the
code enforcement contractor is actually working for the end user.
When a firm entices anyone to rely on a product of service they
provide and brings the person to harm they have created a cause of
action at tort law. The risk that the firm offering a service or
product undertakes is directly proportional to the potential harm and
unlike a publicly employed inspector the contract firms cannot hide
behind the states sovereign immunity.
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Tom Horne