On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 18:31:56 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Jul 5, 8:33*pm, wrote:

He's only telling it like it is. And he's not going so far as a lot of
other folks who post here. You know, the ones who complain that
democracy is so bad that if they don't get their way in the next
election, then they intend to dispense with democracy altogether. Of
course, that remedy is nothing more than their wet dreams, so in the
meantime they tell lesser complainers to leave. Which is perhaps what
they themselves would do if they weren't dependant on the social
services they claim to hate. I'd be willing to pay for some one-way
tickets to Somalia so that a couple of the most deluded crackpots
could report back on what it's like to walk their talk.

he ought to *look around
and see if there is anyplace that he would like better. *I don't think
he will find a place he would like better, but looking might make him
feel better about where he lives.

One can find lots of faults with the U.S., but it is hard to find a
place that is better.

As I said, there are many who complain much louder. How many of *them*
have you given the same advice? Most likely zero. So all that you and
foreman have accomplished with your straw man is to advertise your
double standards. When and if you guys come out strong against
sedition, then sensible readers might take you seriously.

Wayne

Since I am posting on the Internet, my advice can be read by all. So
I consider that I have given the same advice to all.

That's pretty lame if you only speak up in regards to Hawke,
especially since you weren't willing to debate any of his points
sincerely. Clearly other posters have out-complained him hundreds to
one. Can you show some posts where you advised any of those folks that
they should consider leaving? I doubt it.

Now what is this crap about double standards? Explain what you think
are my double standards or quit posting such crap.

I reread my previous comments. They're pretty clear, so if you haven't
gotten it by now then you're probably not going to.

Also what is this crap about sedition and why are you obsessed with
sedition?

Again, there are several posters in this newsgroup who are obviously
just fine with sedition. Gummer talks about his cull daily, and
foreman (whose comments you echoed) claims to be on a list of
seditionists. Nobody doubts where some of us stand on that issue, but
weasels like foreman prefer to talk around it as if it's too
complicated to state his position in plain English.

And why do you try to connect sedition to anything that I have
posted?
It seems to be a non sequitur.

Nope. Here are a couple of simple statement that most of us can make:
"I'm against sedition in no uncertain terms" " If we're going to
invite citizens to leave, then we should start with seditionists" Do
you agree or disagree?

Wayne