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John Doe John Doe is offline
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Default META: Why plonk?

Usually it is just a troll, by someone who is unskilled or someone
who enjoys playing with an imaginary kill file friend that comes
and goes.

The only real filter is Ignore SubThread. If you see a troll
reply, you just hit the Ignore SubThread key/function and that
takes care of the problem and any replies to that problem, like
pruning the branches of a tree. It is the filter of filters. But,
unfortunately, not all newsreaders include Ignore SubThread. I
guess what sort of filters you need depends on what you use UseNet
for.
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David Nebenzahl nobody but.us.chickens wrote:

[META = meta-discussion. Similar to OT in that no on-topic material to
a.h.r in message]

Apropos the ongoing discussions in various places here about killfiling,
plonking, etc., a serious question to y'all:

Why killfile or plonk at all?

I'm asking this earnestly and hoping to get some good answers to this
question.

My take on the whole situation is this: There's no good reason to use a
killfile at all. Even if there are lots of objectionable messages in a
newsgroup, meaning messages that you don't want to read.

Why do I say this? Well, it's because even if one uses a killfile to
remove such objectionable messages from one's sight, one *still* has to
exercise judgment--that is, actually use one's brain--in deciding which
messages to read.

Especially in a group as active as this one. Look at it this way: let's
say for the sake of discussion that somehow, by some miracle, all the
spam, all the off-topic messages, etc., just disappeared from here
overnight. All that's left are postings that are on-topic to a.h.r.

So what now? Even in this new utopian situation, you're *still* gonna
have to decide which messages to read and which to skip (well, unless
you're some kind of total home repair omnivore or something). To me,
most of the threads here are of little interest to me, so I don't bother
reading them. Obviously, they're of interest to someone else, so I have
no problem with their being here; I just choose to skip over them. Simple.

I do the same with spam, which is very easy to recognize, and a lot of
the off-topic threads. And some of our resident trolls, like Harry, even
make this very easy by thoughtfully labeling such threads "OT".

So what's the big problemo? Simply read what you want and ignore the
rest. No need to rant and rave, to complain about all the people abusing
the group, etc., etc. Hey, folks, this is Usenet, not the Algonquin
Round Table, for chrissakes.

As I've stated elsehere, this group is nowhere near "wrecked" as some
claim. I've seen wrecked newsgroups, and this one is a long way away
from that sorry state. Sure, the spam gets a bit thick here--that's
because it's one of the more active groups around, and spammers like
traffic--but it could be much worse. And surprisingly, there's little of
the really malicious types of postings, where people impersonate other
posters and post really vile crap under their names (for an example,
check out recent postings in sci.electronics.repair). These sorts of
concerted attacks occur in various groups from time to time, but we've
been spared for the time being.

Discuss amongst yourselves.


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)



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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:41:02 -0700
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