On Fri, 7 May 2010 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On May 7, 2:15*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2010 23:03:09 -0500, Don Foreman





wrote:
On Thu, 06 May 2010 19:29:58 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Don Foreman wrote:
I promised to report results on this activity. I'm pleased with the
results. *The accuracy of a decent but inexpensive rifle was
significantly improved with one of the several loads tried today.
There were also some loads (different powder) *it didn't shoot well at
all, though it has never shot any load so badly that it'd miss COM on
a deer at 200 yards, which is too far to be shooting deer with a .243.
I think after bedding it is now accurate enough to be used on varmints
out to 300 yards.

http://members.goldengate.net/dforem..._rifle_result/

That's a big dime!
Or one accurate piece...

The holes really are 6mm dia, not .50 cal. :)

That group wouldn't rate a sneer among bench rest competitors whose
multi-thousand dollar 6mmPPC rifles (with similarly pricey scopes)
routinely punch 0.200" groups at 200 yards. 6mmPPC is ballistically
very similar to .243 Winchester and shoots the same bullets but the
rifles are hand-crafted to very exacting standards, using bull barrels
maybe 1-1/2" in diameter. There were two of those at the range today.
Their owners weren't shooting them anywhere near that well today but I
don't doubt that the rifles are capable.

But I feel pretty good about how my little *off-the-rack
consumer-grade Savage, bought from floor stock at The General Store in
Osakis, MN, *seems to work after bedding it and doing *a bit of load
development. Oh, and moving up to a $195 scope. * * *

Savage is probably the most accurate of all the Big 5 manufactures at
the moment.

Its a very very pleasant suprise what the "new" owner, Ronald Coburn,
did with Savage Arms. *He took a company that had a very spotty..in some
cases..absolutly ****ty reputation and turned it around.

Ive owned Savage arms *for many years and with few exceptions, they were
mediocre pieces of crap designed by mutants. *Coburn took over..got them
off virtual bankruptcy and produces some of the finest production arms
ever made.

The only Savage centerfire long gun I ever owned that I really
liked..was a mint+ 24D over and under...20ga Mag under 357 Remington
Maximum. *And its the only one Ive ever seen. I cant find any reliable
records of that combination. *I carry it a lot when out in the desert
during bird season..as it takes birds and coyotes nicely. *Not a bad
score for $150, eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Arms

Gunner


Current model Savage guns ARE pillar bedded from the factory and their
"tactical" line goes one better, they've got a machined metal frame
that the whole receiver beds down in, then the works goes in a fiber
stock. They're getting what amounts to match accuracy from production
guns and barrels and for a most reasonable price. The ease of
swapping barrels is just an added plus.

I've not seen that particular combination in a 24, the .357 Maximum
had about 6 months of hooraw from the press, then it died. The 24 was
a barn gun, pure and simple, but the price got to be over $500 and
nobody pays that for a barn gun. Even now, the .22LR over .410s run
$600 at the local shows. Crazy. So hang onto it, it's probably a
collector's item now. Had one fellow at a show that was paying crazy
prices for any over-under he didn't have yet.

Stan

Oddly enough..the Maximum is a pretty decent round. Near 357 Herret
velocities with nearly the same size bullet out of a handgun and out of
a rifle..it actually approaches..though distantly..the 35 Remington, if
you can believe that.

D models were made on walnut stocks with decent bluing and polish.
When I bought it some years ago, the fellow I bought it from, at a gun
show had brought in a bunch of guns and was looking for miltiary style
California legal arms and was wheeling and dealing to snag something
before the Ban came into effect. I glanced at it. saw it was a nice
looking weapon and thought it was a 357 Magnum upper. So we haggled a
bit, I flipped out cash, he took it and I walked carried it back to my
table and stood it in the corner. Buddy came by, we shot the **** for a
few and he commented on the Savage. After looking it over..his eyebrows
rose a bit and asked me if I had any brass for it. I told him I had many
thousand..and he asked...Maximum brass???.. I blinked, grabbed it back
and looked close..and sure as ****..it was a Maximum. So I had to go
roust around until I found 50 new cases and paid a freaking premium for
them. Next day, Id loaded some test rounds for it, took it to the range
and found what it liked. What surprised me, was it was pumping about a
1" 5shot group at 50 yrds, with the crude folding sights. So I went
home, loaded all the cases with its favorite load and thats what Ive
been toting ever since. Tried a few other rounds over the years, found a
cast bullet and a JHP load that it likes and I keep a few hundred rounds
worked up for it. It shoots 20ga damned well, though its not a Perazzi
trap gun.

Ive taken all manner of dove, quail, chukker and bunnies and also a
deer, about a half dozen wild boars, a **** load of coyotes and whatnot.

I carry it a lot, dont shoot it much, but its a nice addition to the
battery. Its not a paper puncher..but it has a decent wallop, about like
a 3030 and is a pretty fair untilty arm for wandering around in the
desert.

I seem to run into odd but cool stuff now and then....chuckle.

Gunner

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