snip The LV gadget looks like a cool way to avoid the extra hassle of
having to
finesse this oh so carefully, and I'm not trying to cost Robin a sale
here.
I'm just saying if you're fiscally challenged, you might be able to get by
without it.

snip

Syvain -

No worries - I don't have one of these either...I can't justify it for what
I do!

It is a well made tool - and at a great price for an optical center
punch...but you still hafta need one!

Cheers -

Rob