"Jeff R." wrote in message
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The way it works is you have to go to school long enough to be
indoctrinated with liberalism. ...

RogerN

Kind'a like fundie christians, huh?

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JR


... Tearing down a solid foundation for a belief and then building a
weaker one, and then believing the weaker foundation is true is how
liberals change the facts of history over time.

Something Christians would never do, huh?

Actually many follow and believe somewhat blindly.

Another example, liberals claim the New Testament wasn't written until
hundreds of years after the fact.

Roger, Roger. So... when were the gospels written? How old were the
authors at the time? How old were they at the time of Jesus?

There's pretty good evidence that they were written before the destruction
on the temple in 70AD. For one, they mention Jesus' telling that the temple
would be destroyed but there is no mention that it was fulfilled in 70AD.
If any new testament writings were from a later date it would have been
beneficial to include the destruction of the temple in 70AD and the
disciples death for their faith. Also, it would have been beneficial to
leave out the any indication that the disciples thought Jesus would return
in their lifetime. That would indicate that the new testament writings were
within 40 years of Christs resurrection. Also, in Paul's letter to the
Corinthians, he mentions that there were over 500 eye witnesses that saw
Jesus after the resurrection and many were still alive at the time of the
writing, indicating that the readers could find them and talk to the if they
wanted.

The bottom line difference between a liberal and a fundie Christian is
the Christian believes truth on a solid foundation, the liberal believes
in destroying solid foundations and building weaker ones to believe in.
What's it been, a couple hundred years since slavery in the USA? And
already the liberal Democrats have conveniently forgot that they were the
ones wanting slavery.

Ummm... Roger, don't forget that the warrant for slavery is in the bible,
and the brave individuals - christians or not - who opposed it did so in
the face of biblical injunction as well as majority popular opinion.

Today the issue is killing babies,

Is that the only issue?

No, but it's a dividing issue between Democrats and Republicans just like
slavery was years ago, and the Democrats were on the wrong side of the
issue.

Really?
You do realise, don't you, that your god kills millions of times more
babies than do any actual living people.

How do *you* get to choose what *the* issue is?

What about inner-city violence?
What about corrupt politicians?
What about global poverty?
What about AIDS in Africa?
What about care of the elderly?

How come you get to choose what the issue is?

Like I answered above, that certainly isn't the only issue.

For a liberal, truth is what they want it to be, for others, the truth is
the truth.

You forgot the capital "T".

RogerN


So, Roger, could you explain again how it's "indoctrination" and
"brainwashing" when non-christians raise their family according to their
own values, yet it's "building on 'solid foundations'" when a christian
does the same thing?

Just wondering...

--
Jeff R.

For many there may not be a lot of difference, they don't teach the solid
foundation of the scriptures and many lose their faith when they get older,
largely due to the teachings of liberals. They believe the liberals
arguments instead of looking up the counter arguments. There is a former
Atheist that was an investigative reporter for the Chicago Tribune (IIRC)
that used his investigative reporting skills on Christianity. Now he writes
books and has debates between the most outspoken Atheists and Christians,
many Atheists come to these debates and become Christians. They had never
heard the other side of the argument before.

RogerN