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On Mar 23, 11:55*am, Jack Stein wrote:
Upscale wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT), "
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get Medicare.
Idiot. *Medicare is not for the indigent. *In fact it is for the
_wealthiest_ group.


Big deal, so I made a mistake between Medicare and Medicaid.


That's minor compared to the rest of your half-assed thoughts.

The

question remains the same. How many of you assholes would happily go
through bankruptcy for health care? I can confidently say that no one
would.


No one ever had to go bankrupt for great medical care in the US.

Isn't it funny how almost everybody in the US that is against
universal health care is currently protected by some sort of medical
plan?


Ain't it funny that everyone enjoying the best health care on earth has
been sharing that care with the few that can't enjoy it on their own dime?

What about all those literally millions and millions of US
citizens that aren't covered by anything? They're your people and they
are part of what makes the US such a great nation. Don't they deserve
some sort of health protection.


Not ONE person in the US has not been eligible for medical care in the
past. * The US has free medical for the indigent. *Not one indigent
person in the US cannot get Medicade.

If you were not indigent, but had no medical insurance, they had the
spend down medical program. *That meant if you made $5,000 a month, and
had medical bill for say $10,000 in a month, you could get Medicade.
Even if you were a millionaire, *you could still get Medicade if the
monthly expense *minus your monthly income was less the poverty level
for income. *This virtually made every single US citizen in need
eligible for free medical care, based on need.

I once stated that the most important human right was to be healthy.


Yeah, how's that working for you?

Mill jumped in and stated that it was freedom. The fact is that
illness and especially chronic illness without health care is a loss
of freedom that the healthy can never possibly comprehend.


Up your ass. *In the US, everyone had medical care available to them,
and not just medical care, but the best medical care on earth, period.
This was made available by very healthy, very rich Americans.

The socialist *******s that took over the democratic party have just
reduced US medical to the arm pits of England and Canada, and the ONLY
reason is to empower the central government to enslave us. *It has
NOTHING to do with free medical care.

--
Jack
Obama Care...Freedom not Included!http://jbstein.com



Well said, Jack.

And the biggest problem that nobody is addressing is the fact that
NOTHING IS FREE!

Then liberals will say that is is only FAIR. We all want to be fair,
but what does fair mean?

Suppose four guys go out to lunch, and split the check four ways. Is
that fair? Suppose one had a tuna sandwich, and another had lobster?
Then maybe it would be fair to say that each pays for what he eats?
But suppose one of the guys makes $100,000 a year and the others make
only $50,000. Would it be fair to say the one who makes the big bucks
should pay twice what the others do, regardless of what he eats,
because he makes more? You probably wouldn´t think it was "fair" to
ask your friend to pay for your meal, though an increasing voting bloc
feels it is very fair to ask other people to pay for things they want.

Let´s take another example. Suppose 100 adults with jobs live on your
street. And you get together and decide that it would be wonderful if
you had a new playground that would cost about $10,000. So you vote
and the new playground wins.

Then you have to vote how much each person should chip in to buy the
playground, and the vote goes like this:

- Five of the adults are charged a total of $6,000 for the playground
everyone will use.

- Another 45 of the adults have to get together and chip in an
additional $3,700.

- And the last 50 adults have to pool their resources and come up
with $300 between them.

Is that fair? (That was the US tax code in 2006.)

Well, President Obama and his Social Democrat Party said no way is
that fair.

Those five people have to come up with a lot more money than just
$6,000, so the 45 pay less, and the 50 who were paying $300 now pay
nothing.

Under that help-the-rich guy George Bush and the Republicans in 2006,
5% of Americans—those with incomes over $153,000, paid 60% of the
taxes, while the bottom 50% of Americans paid 3%. (IRS figures.)

Once more than 50% of the public pay nothing, what is to stop them
from voting to take everything from those who pay more?

And all in the name of being fair.