On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:04:36 -0600, Jules wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 20:31:00 +0000, Andy Champ wrote:
And I curse the cheap screws I've bought in the past that look the same,
but break off deep in the hole just as you are torquing them down...

Yes, I've found crappy ones sold "as the same thing" which have much thinner
shafts than the "good" ones - i.e. they've used less material to save on
costs. I wouldn't ever order screws unless I could see the physical item
first...

Had that with Turbo Ultra St. St. 90mm, even in a (tight) pilot hole!
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Peter.
2x4 - thick plank; 4x4 - two of 'em.