"jtpr" wrote in message ...
Brad,

Are you looking at the group in the group view?

Not exactly sure what that means...

That is, just the rec.woodworking group?


Um, well, yes. I go to google, click "groups," click "rec," and
choose rec.woodworking. I have it bookmarked so I usually just go
directly there. I hope I'm answering what you're asking. The only
group I see is rec.woodworking.

If you are, and you click on a thread, you will be
brought to the part of the thread upon which you clicked, with the index of
the thread in the left frame.

Yes, that has been my experience on those occasions when frames are
displayed. But my question is, WHY are frames displayed sometimes and
not other times? Personally I find the frames a PIA and would rather
not see them. I don't know how to turn them off permanently, and I
don't know why they seem to appear randomly.


Just drag that frame to the top and click on
the first message before closing the frame.


Yup, could do that. But I'd rather just not see frames to begin with.
Plus, when google shows up in "frames mode," I have to close the
frames each and every time I want to read a new thread. Isn't there
some way to permanently turn them off?




Why is it you can't use a news reader?

Guess I could but I was perfectly happy with Google groups until this
issue arose recently. It did everything I needed it to do, and I
really just didn't have any need to learn a news reader. This worked
fine. And no, I have no idea why the problem arose. I'm not aware of
having changed any computer settings,downloading anything new, or any
of the other issues People Who Know More About Computers Than I Do
(almost everyone) always ask me in these situations.


Thanks for bearing with me....




-jtpr

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"brad" wrote in message
om...
Fellow Wreckers-

I apologize for burdening you with such an OT post. I could have
spent a long time searching for and trying to figure this out on my
own. I don't have the time and I'm hoping you'll understand and be
your usual helpful selves.

I use google groups to follow this newsgroup. About half the time I
go to rec.woodworking, when I click on a topic, instead of that thread
coming up on my screen, at the first message in the thread, I instead
see two "windows." The one on the left shows the identities of the
various posters to the thread, in a list, in order. On the right panel
are the thread messages themselves. Usually the message visible in
the right panel is not the first message in the thread. To view the
thread the way I am accustomed to and more comfortable doing, I have
to: 1) scroll up the left "list" panel to the top, 2) click "no
frames," 3)then, after the view reverts to the way I'm accustomed to,
with the messages appearing full screen, I have to navigate to the
start of the thread. What a pain!

And yet, I have NO idea why this happens only some times and not
others. I haven't changed any settings (that I'm aware of), and I'm
certainly not intentionally changing any setting back and forth. Yet,
this seems to happen completely randomly.

Any clues for the clueless?

Eternally Grateful,
Brad