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Ignoramus7943 wrote:
On 2010-01-04, John R. Carroll wrote:
F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:42:39 -0600, Ignoramus7943
wrote:

I shipped several items via Arrow. One was particularly
surprising. I shipped a walk behind electric pallet lift (weight
350+ lbs) from IL to TX, with liftgate pickup, for just $250.

Here it is:

http://yabe.algebra.com/~ichudov/misc/ebay/Forklift/

I was wondering how they were making money. Now I know.

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I don't know if this is still the case, but in many past trucking
company bankruptcies, attorneys for the creditors and/or court
have been able to go back several years and collect additional
freight charges from the shippers when the low rates were never
officially registered/ published, under the doctrine of
fraudulent conveyance.

Some higher volume shippers have had to pay hundreds of thousands
of dollars in additional freight charges, the difference between
what they paid and the "official"/registered/published rate.

Ed or John -- do you know if this is still the case?


There really isn't a time bar but 18 months is typically observed
unless there is provable collusion.
That is one of the difficulties in dealing with folks that are knwn
in advance to be insolvent.
You can end up on the line for the entire amount owed creditors or
the tax authorities because of the Tort.


Maybe I will get a $65,989,254.32 bill due to this...


LOL

Be sure and post that if it happens.
You'd have had to have been reselling Arrow's services to have any liability
under the circumstances George inquired about.

Happy New Year Ig and hopefully 2010 will be the year America turns the page
on what has been a sorry chapter in an otherwise decent book.


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John R. Carroll