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Coffee's For Closers[_2_]

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Coffee's For Closers writes:

Would you prefer a neighbour who throws lit cigarette butts out
her second-story window and balcony, down to where you have to
clean them up?

Another tenant litters on the property, you take it up with
his/her landlord, not with the tenant. If the landlord
doesn't do anything about it, you've got a beef with the
landlord, not with the tenant.

Yes, in a tenant-vs-tenant situation, I would have prevailed.
Especially when the threats of violence started.

But you've already indicated that the neighbor in question
owned her unit, which means that there was no landlord to
complain to.

That was a major factor in Demon Bitch Neighbour's sense of
entitlement. She believed that, simply "owning" her unit (with a
barely payable mortgage/expenses nut) gave her personal
authoriTAH over the entire building. And she actually expressed
that, verbally. Including the right to toss cigarette butts all
over the common areas.

If there's a condo association or HOA, you take
up with them. If they don't do anything about it, you've got
a beef with them, not with the tenant.

That was my first action. I actually cleaned up many of the
cigarette butts. With disposeable latex gloves, and placing them
into a clean ziplock bag. Which I taped to the offender's door,
when she was at work. But I didn't speak with her. I promptly
called my landlord, with a complaint.

Landlord was sympathetic. He stated that I should NOT have to
tolorate it. I mentioned that, the perp's droppings had landed
in my vegetable garden. Which was what really set me off, when
it continued. Aahhhh... I'll go out and get some buttercrunch
lettuce for dinner... And pick the neighbour's cigarette butt out
of my food... Yummy!

If there's no landlord, condo association, or HOA, then
you're SOL. Deal with it.

There was an owner's group. However, Bitch Neighbour From Hell
was the only occupier - the others were all absent. And didn't
care that she was littering. And didn't care how she treated the
tenants.

They only cared that she whined about how horrible I was. And
that I was magically the problem. And that she was an owner, and
so outranked me.

Basically, you can tell a tenant to leave. But booting an owner
is a much bigger hassle. Therefore, the tenant is automatically
the guilty party. Especially when the owner is whining, whining,
whiiiinnnnnniiinnnggggg, and being a consistent pain in the arse.

Let's keep in mind that, this psycho had directly stated her
intent to control the population of the building. Including
demanding that, the other owners only rent to tenants who would
be her personal friends. To feed her female-bully queen-bee
fantasies. To compensate for the emotional/financial hit of her
divorce.

Have I mentioned how entitled and arrogant she was?

Would you prefer a neighbour who physically attacks you after you
complain to your landlord, and also politely ask her to stop the
littering?

It's clear from your postings that you walk around with a
chip on your shoulder.

I have never made an unprovoked attack on a neighbour, or anyone
else. This particular "chip" is specifically in response to the
incompetent landlord, his arrogant wife, and dirtbag neighbour.

The original poster of this thread was asking about malicious or
incompetent landlords. So, I mentioned my one really bad
experience.

I have been renting apartments for over twenty years, in several
cities. And I have NEVER encountered anything that even
approaches that conflict.

I'm sure that came through loud and
clear to your neighbor, regardless of how "polite" you
thought you were being.

My first resort was to call my landlord (part own of the
building.) He took my side right from the start, and all the way
to the bitter end.

The filthy smoker told my landlord that she would "try" to use
and ashtray. She failed, because throwing and flicking the butts
is a part of the smoking ritual. Plus, she even claimed to be a
"clean" person by never having butts inside her home(!)

It was only AFTER she had been told to stop, by my landlord
that... I found another butt IN MY FOOD. And, very, very
politely asked her to stop.

Her first response was to lie, and claim that they weren't hers.
In a small building. With her as the only smoker.
Tossing/flicking openly. With most of the butts in a trail from
her parking space to her door, with concentrations at each end.

When that lie didn't work, she claimed that, she had a right to
"dirty up my home." When the other owners were mentioned, she
claimed that, "They don't care!" Despite the fact that they had
told her to stop.

When that didn't work, she started threatening physical violence.

Yes, I was always polite. Right up until she started lying and
threatening violence.

It's also clear that you figured out early on that this was
not someone you were going to be able to reason with, so
talking to her about the littering was just stupid. Everybody
has bad neighbors. It's a fact of life, and you deal with it.
When the bad neighbor is someone you can't reason with, the
best strategy is to ignore everything that it's possible to
ignore, and cigarette butts clearly fall into that category.

Actually, no. I lived in that place for over five years, with
zero conflicts with anyone. No problems until the filth-bag
showed up. And not just littering. But also DEMANDING personal
friendship, favours, access to possessions. And, not just to me,
but to other tenants, as well.

I have lived in my current location for years. And I don't have
to put up with any abuse from my neighbours. Because they don't
litter. And they don't DEMAND friendship, etc. No problems.

And, exactly how much do you think that people are obligated to
ignore?

Do you expect me to tolerate 120dB music in the middle of the
night? An amphetamine lab?

My present upstairs neighbours include some children. They make
little noise. I never complain, because I understand. No
problem.

I have lived in placed where cigarette butts meant nothing.
Where the litter included used hypodermic needles. But, in a
decent suburb, we a have a differ net standard. Where people act
civilised. Because I pay more more money to filter the nasty
behaviour away from me.

Tobacco addicts should be ghettoized. Literally. Forced to live
in scungy inner-city slums that they can use as their personal
ash-trays. Or banished to the nastiest desert island (maybe down
by Antarctica) in a sort of penal colony. They could get weekly
helicopter drops of cheetos and cancer-sticks. With the fights
and riots on pay-per-view.

By the way, what was the outcome of the complaint you filed
with the police after your neighbor physically attacked you.
You *did* file a complaint with the police, right?

Actually, I had approached the police on the day of the first
verbal threat. It was only after Neighbour From Hell sent her
punkass "adult" son to my door, threatening me, that the cops
were concerned. But all they did was a couple of phone calls,
telling them to stop.

The next day, Neighbour From Hell went to a different copshop,
and filed a complaint accusing ME of threatening her. Those
officers were surprised to hear that I had been the initial
complainant.

That is how female bullies ALWAYS operate. And, unfortunately,
the cops wouldn't admit to any ultimate disagreement. And they
took her side. Mostly because she was turning on the tears and
whiiining, like a damsel in distress.

Later, after the physical attack (very minor, no injuries), I
knew very well that I was SOL. Because the cops were already on
her side. In a subsequent, non-reporting conversation with one
of the cops, I was told that, "No-Witness=No-Recourse," and that,
I was right for NOT CALLING.

Generally, if a female does any physical aggression to you -
regardless of your sex - you are a total fool if you call the
cops.

Her track record of lying meant that, she would 100% Guaranteed
have accused me of being the aggressor. With the cops already on
her side from previous lying. Plus, there was the risk of her
having her punk-ass son, or some other beta, lying as a witness.

If I had reported it that, night, I could have been convicted of
attacking her. Without ANY regard for the reality of the
situation.

THAT is how female bullies ALWAYS work.

There were some other behaviour problems from Neighbour From
Hell, which I don't have time to get in to. We're talking
someone who claims an authoriTAH to dictate other people's
hobbies, and how much time they are allowed to spend at home (in
"her" building) and what kind of job they can do. She seemed to
think that, rejecting her as a friend meant that I would be
prohibited from speaking to the other neighbours (e.g. about her
psycho behaviour.) And on, and on, and on, with more psycho
entitlement attitudes.

However, my actual landlord was always on my side. He even
stated that, Neighbour From Hell clearly needed some psychiatric
help. He wanted her gone, and valued me as a good, stable, long-
term tenant. Right to the end, he said that I was being shafted.

OTOH, Landlord's-Wife initially told me that, the threats should
be taken seriously. She wanted me to continue living there. As
a good, quiet, stable tenant forking over the cash. As a chump
tolerating deteriorating conditions.

Right up until I voiced my opinions of housewives, divorced
housewives, and incompetentt young women. And she actually said
that I was some kind of a bad person for rejecting the losers.

Plus, the continuing whining from the owner-bully.

Interestngly... A Web search shows that, Neighbour Bully is now
longer listed in the phone book. And that, her apartment was up
for rent a few months ago, with her furniture in it. And, was
vacant for several weeks, including a reduction in the rent
demanded. And, I am quite confident that, she didn't move up
economically, since she had been complaining about how tough
paycheque-to-paycheque living was for someone who couldn't even
cook instant noodles was....

Even a queen bee. I bet she moved in with her mommy.

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