Mark & Juanita wrote:
jo4hn wrote:

problem?

Indeed. There are no long term (paleo)climatological models that
operate on 40 years worth of data. Tree rings, earth cores, sea cores,
and even the written descriptions of various weather phenomena go back
hundreds, if not thousands of years. New Vostok data have extended the
historical record of temperature variations and atmospheric
concentrations of CO2, methane and other greenhouse trace gases (GTG)
back to 420,000 years before present.


The warmist religion is attempting to predict disaster with average
temperature increases on the order of 0.6 deg C (~1.2 deg F). In order for
the models to be believable to that degree of precision, then the records
going back in time must be accurate on the order of 0.1 deg C. Do you
seriously believe that tree rings, driven by multiple confounding factors,
average temperature being much smaller in contribution than rainfall, or ice
core samples, again driven by multiple confounding factors can be relied
upon to that degree of precision? That isn't science, that's reading goat
entrails.


This is all science that won't go away just because you will it so.
Perhaps nothing will come of it or even the massive amounts of fresh
water that are entering the oceans will alter the thermohaline
circulation patterns resulting in colder temperatures. Research in
these areas should not be curtailed despite the anti-science popularity
in certain political arenas.


Mark is mixing micro- with macro-climatology here. Models of this type
deal with long term trends. I will sign off now. Good night and good
grief.
yours in science,
jo4hn