On Sep 29, 2:05*pm, "Lefty" wrote:
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On Sep 29, 6:33 am, "Lefty" wrote:
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Do NG barbecue units require a pressure regulator?
Thank you,
Seamus J. Wilson
Yes indeed.
Almost all natural gas and LP appliances utilize a seperate regulator at
(or built into) the unit, including stoves, cooktops and BBQ's. Typical
settings are from 3.5" to 5" water column on the outlet side. The
meter/regulator does not step down this far. If you don't use one, the
flame will be blowing and lifting off, making for a cold flame with a
high
level of flue by-products such as CO.
Check with the unit manufacturer for proper manifold settings for their
particular burner.
HTH, Lefty
To clarify,
The regulator on the side of the house, at the meter or wellhead,
whichever
you have, needs to be set higher. The reason is because enough pressure
must be available to push the gas through the house piping without
friction
loss. The reason it is stepped down at the house is to bring it down to a
much safer level should a leak occur inside. Typical settings for this
regulator are around 14"-15" w.c. unless you have a CSST piping system
inside, in which case it is likely set around 2#. Much too high for
individual appliance use.
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To further clarify, you don't know what you're talking about. * I just
did a conversion from propane to natural gas on a Charmglow outdoor
grill using the Charmglow conversion kit.
The conversion consists of:
A - Removing the propane hose and regulator.
B - Replacing that with the natural gas hose, which has no regulator
C - Removing the tips of the burners, which makes the orrifice larger
D - Changing the bezels behind the burner knobs. *The new bezel has a
different stop that limits how far it can be turned in the low
direction.
Don't I??
Check this document;
http://www.nexgrill.net/pdf/720-0008-T.pdf
You read the post. *I said check with your own individual manufacturer for
their recommendations, so whats the problem?
The problem is the question was "Do NG barbecue units require a
pressure regulator? "
To which your first answer was "Yes indeed." Followed by stating that
almost all natural gas and LP BBQs utilize a seperate regulator. I
have seen lots of LP grills and they do indeed use a regulator that is
part of the hose that assembly that goes to the tank. They need it
because the tank pressure will vary and there is no regulator already
in the system.
I have also seen lots of natural gas grills that do not have
regulators because they don't need them. As I stated, I just used
conversion kits to convert two grills from LP to natural gas. They
both discarded the pressure regulators and just hook the hose up
directly.
Then for added measure you threw in more crapola about the regulator
at the side of the house needing to be set higher and it must be
stepped down. Clearly that is nonsense or the natural gas grill
conversion kits would not work without a regulator. They are in fact
designed to work with the standard residential pressure.
I'd like you to show us where in your nexgrill document it says that
their grill for natural gas uses a pressure regulator. Please show
us where it is. In fact, what they are saying is the grill is
designed to work with std residential pressure.
I would be willing to bet you did'nt actually check your house pressure.
You can see that Charmglow is depending on your house line pressure to be
only 7" water column. *But you have no idea. *You just know it seemed to
work and that's good enough for you.
Yes, I just followed the simple conversion instructions. No where
did those instructions say I had to perform any test. I suppose
according to you every time I buy a new dryer I should hire you to
come out and charge me $300 to check the pressure and hook it up.
Funny if you know so much, you don't know that there are natural gas
grills that don't need a pressure regulator. I'm not the only one
here of that opinion, several others have stated the same thing.
*Unfortunately pros can't afford to
guess and let someone cash in that multimillion dollar liabilty insurance
policy that they keep on their companies, so they check things out little
more thouroghly. *BTW, you also know that the Charmglow/Home Depot marriage
isn't exactly producing the most satisfied customers, don't you?
Actually, the grills I was speaking about were CharBroil. My
mistake. They are working fine and for what I paid for them I have
no complaints.
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