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Default Postmortem on recalcitrant toilet


"PV" edrnouser@ spam telus.net wrote in message
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I think I was the one that asked for the after action report.

I realize this comes a little late for your unit, but I suspect
that the
calcium build up in the rim was the problem, but an easy way for
some one to
fix that is to use a plastic trash can and mix muriatic acid with
enough
water to cover the base of the toilet and let it soak for a few
days. ?That
will dissolve any crusties in the porcelain and should do the
trick.

It also takes out the hard water and rust stains on some older
johns that
just won't scrub off.

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a easier way is pour muriatic acid down the dip tube, wait 15
minutes and flush normally, repeat as needed. then flush 10 or 15
times to dilute any acid remaining in the system. wear safety
glasses, use a funel and have the room well ventilated.

its worth a try and can do no harm if your going to replace the
toilet anyway

Just curious, I need to do this to a toilet but what is the "dip"
tube?

Did a google and came up with a diagram, but no dip tube. ?Not being
a smartass, really want to know how to clean out the toilet once and
for all


http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=h...tstyle.com/toi...

Thanks for the help

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its the tube thats inn the tank, open at top and has hose connected or
inserted at top, the dip tube water causes the start of the wave that
ultimately causes the flush.

the dip tube water comes out the bowl rim holes


Thanks, Will give this a shot tomorrow


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PV


I would like to make a couple of points here. First I don't think that
there is more than one path for the water to flow there is only one hole in
the main body of the toilet that the water goes into. What was referred to
as the dip tube I believe is properly referred to as the overflow tube, and
the little hose that flows in to the tube is to give a little water after
the flush to return the level in the bowl to full. The water is well on its
way when the flapper valve opens.

As I see the choice between the two proposed methods, the removal method has
the disadvantage of having to remove the toilet and disassemble, but the
advantage is that it does a really thorough job as the acidic mix is kept in
contact with the calcium deposits until it all fizzes away, and you do not
have a bunch of acid fumes stinking up the house. You also get to replace
the wax ring and check the condition of the gasket between the tank and the
bowl.

If you just pour the acid in most of it just flows right down the drain and
does nothing, and you end up on your hands and knees poking a chunk of wire
into the rim holes while sniffing acid fumes.

Good luck which ever way you choose.

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Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?