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"Pete Keillor" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:12:58 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
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"Bob La Londe" writes:

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For a coyote gun, I'm considering a 22/250. I like the Savage Model
12. Should I consider other calibers, or is this a good choice?

Steve

I used to trap professionally, (two winters before the price crash at
the end of the 80s) but never seemed to have enough money for a good
rifle. I did however read The Trapper and Predator Caller magazine
for several years, and a good quality 22-250 seemed to be the rifle of
choice by all the callers writing articles for them. If you are in
circumstance where you might get multiple targets in rapid succession
the usual preference according to my gunsmith buddy is to glass bed
the chamber (thick part of the barrel) and action and float the
barrel.

I had a Ruger mini-14 and it sucked. I never did figure out how to
zero it in until years after I sold it. It did however do a pretty
good job of dropping them if I could hit them.


I've got one now, and... it sucks. LOUSY accuracy.

This might help you. Next time you try to sight it in, take one shot.
Make an adjustment and let it cool down for 20 minutes. Make your
next shot, and repeat. The mini guys I know now say that's the only
realistic way to site one in. Because of the way its assembled after
2-3 shots in rapid succession the barrel heats up enough to distort in
its mounting. That's why floating the barrel in some guns improves
their consistency as they heat up. Expansion is more uniform, and the
stock isn't dragging on it, changing the heat coefficient of one side
of the barrel, or pushing the barrel away as it expands.

I have talked to a couple different guys who say they sight their guns
in this way, and they can consistently get 2 shots off quickly in the
field with accuracy. They say that it spray bullets worse than a
runaway fire house if they try to drop a whole magazine rapidly
though.

I am not convinced. I didn't know all that stuff back when I had
mine, but I have to say no matter what I did do with it I was never
happy with how it performed. Still its worth a try.


What they're describing is the only way to get the accuracy up to
"lousy" -- probably a 3 inch circle at 100 yards with that sort of
cooling-off between shots. Shoot at all quickly, and the shots walk on
up the paper (I think it goes up and to the right, though I don't
remember for sure) until after a half dozen it's off the paper
completely. Before somebody misinterprets, no I don't have some sort of
full-auto conversion; I am talking about 'take a shot, aim again, take
another shot...


Wow! I'm keeping mine. It shoots way better than that, even hot. It
must be rare as hell.


I've heard some people like you say they like theirs and plenty like myself
who could never do very well with theirs. Most of the time I only hear
people tell how good "theirs" is when somebody tells about what a horrible
experience they had with their own. They can't all suck or they wouldn't
keep selling them. I traded mine for a computer hard drive about 16-17
years ago.