On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:28:46 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:26:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:02:36 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

One of the first things necessary is to establish a list of
perhaps the ten most critical problems in the form of simple
single declarative sentences, prioritize this list, and then ask
what can and will be done. It the answer is nothing, then
fundamental and foundational change is clearly necessary, not
simple personnel/personality changes.


But George..its not a simple matter of personnel/personality. Its a
matter of Policy and direction. The Left wants to drag the nation into
a socialist/marxist path. Conservatives want to drag the nation into one
keeping with the Constitution and States Rights foremost.

Given that the Conservatives are wanting to go in a direction more
easily maintained state by state, and is actually legal and of common
sense...and the Left wants to destroy the Constitution and turn it into
a socialist/marxist ********....which do you think is going to win,
given the rising numbers of Middle to Right wing people who are loosing
their homes, their jobs and their nation..and the fact that they own a
sufficent number of tools to remove those on the Left that want to drag
the nation right into the toilet?

It has nothing to do with personality, but with Policy.
Id of thought you were aware of this.


Gunner
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I am indeed, and it is at this point that the two old adages come
into effect. (1) I cut it off twice and its still too short; and
(2) When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks
like a nail.

What I am suggesting is that within the existing framework of
U.S. government there may be *NO* solutions.

If this is indeed the case, then anything attempted from this
point forward [and in fact for the last several years] is simply
pouring more money down a rat hole. If this correct, then simply
exchanging the personnel/personalaties in the "gang of 545" will
accomplish nothing from the perspective of actually solving or
even abating any of the ten [or whatever] most critical problems
[not bumper sticker slogans].

One of the major contributing factors appears to be the
deliberate maintenance of a [false] forced choice between
Democratic liberal collectivist policies and Republican
"laissez-faire" reactionary policies, which may be effective in
keeping your party in power, but does nothing for actually
resolving any of the increasingly serious and numerous national
problems.

Indeed, it appears that the "gang of 545 (that can't shoot
straight)" won't even agree that any problems exist, let alone
what these problems are or the relative priorities, which in turn
means there is no possibility of any correction.

The people are largely wasting their time, money and energy on
pointless demonstrations tea parties]. For example, why not use
a small part of these resources to collect citizen signatures to
force empanelment of grand juries to investigate apparent fraud
and abuse in the states where this is allowed?


Unka' George [George McDuffee]

Its all moot. In less than 3 yrs, the People will rise up and simply do
away with the 545 individuals in DC, and in their own state capitals,
along with a vast number of those that supported the Leftists.

Its unlikely it can be stopped. The large boulder is perched on the
edge of the mountain and only a tiny bit of gravel is holding it. Gravel
that is slowly being pulverized by the boulders weight. Its leaning
farther and farther out over the village.

Shrug. When the smoke clears, the bodies are disposed of, with luck,
the nation will return to its Constitutional default settings. If the
luck is bad, it will break into red/blue areas and its glory days will
be over.

But it IS going to happen. One way or another.

Shrug.

Gunner

'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith
becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact
equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man
because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the
person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American,
but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag,
the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the
English language.. and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a
loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Ro osevelt 1907