"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:26:27 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:02:36 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

One of the first things necessary is to establish a list of
perhaps the ten most critical problems in the form of simple
single declarative sentences, prioritize this list, and then ask
what can and will be done. It the answer is nothing, then
fundamental and foundational change is clearly necessary, not
simple personnel/personality changes.


But George..its not a simple matter of personnel/personality. Its a
matter of Policy and direction. The Left wants to drag the nation into
a socialist/marxist path. Conservatives want to drag the nation into one
keeping with the Constitution and States Rights foremost.

Given that the Conservatives are wanting to go in a direction more
easily maintained state by state, and is actually legal and of common
sense...and the Left wants to destroy the Constitution and turn it into
a socialist/marxist ********....which do you think is going to win,
given the rising numbers of Middle to Right wing people who are loosing
their homes, their jobs and their nation..and the fact that they own a
sufficent number of tools to remove those on the Left that want to drag
the nation right into the toilet?

It has nothing to do with personality, but with Policy.
Id of thought you were aware of this.


Gunner
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I am indeed, and it is at this point that the two old adages come
into effect. (1) I cut it off twice and its still too short; and
(2) When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks
like a nail.

What I am suggesting is that within the existing framework of
U.S. government there may be *NO* solutions.

If this is indeed the case, then anything attempted from this
point forward [and in fact for the last several years] is simply
pouring more money down a rat hole. If this correct, then simply
exchanging the personnel/personalaties in the "gang of 545" will
accomplish nothing from the perspective of actually solving or
even abating any of the ten [or whatever] most critical problems
[not bumper sticker slogans].

One of the major contributing factors appears to be the
deliberate maintenance of a [false] forced choice between
Democratic liberal collectivist policies and Republican
"laissez-faire" reactionary policies, which may be effective in
keeping your party in power, but does nothing for actually
resolving any of the increasingly serious and numerous national
problems.

Indeed, it appears that the "gang of 545 (that can't shoot
straight)" won't even agree that any problems exist, let alone
what these problems are or the relative priorities, which in turn
means there is no possibility of any correction.

The people are largely wasting their time, money and energy on
pointless demonstrations tea parties]. For example, why not use
a small part of these resources to collect citizen signatures to
force empanelment of grand juries to investigate apparent fraud
and abuse in the states where this is allowed?


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

Unka' George, I have to agree with you again. There is a thing called Miles
law: "How you stand depends on where you sit". This law affects people
with a vision who wanting to make a change, getting elected and slowly
looking like the things they originally wanted to change. I watched this
happen to a number of people and then lo when I transitioned from
engineering to management, my idea was to provide better coverage for my
people to get the job done, did I find myself being drawn into the morass?
Yep.

The "False" choice between the Democrats and Republicans is another
agreement. What bull. Either one takes us down a different road to the
same end. More government, more inefficiency, more erosion of freedoms.
Your look at the basic structure may be a look at the paradigm shift,
whatever it entails, that I believe we are in the midst of.
enjoyed your posting

Stu Fields