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"JC" wrote in message
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In article , Aaron Fude
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Thank you for all the responses and suggestions. Yes, I meant
stranded wire.

But to everyone who no-no'd covering the junction box with
drywall, what
do you suggest I do about this junction box:

http://www.lightinguniverse.com/prod...px?sku=2319080

Don't worry about it. The Code requires that all junction boxes
be
"accessible". In this case, the junction box is "accessible" by
removing the
fixture can from its frame.

I suspect this restriction is so the connections are easy to
locate
if there is a fire. But, as a volunteer fireman, I can assure you
that
during the fighting of a fire we are not going to be looking for a
junction box as one of the first things we do is shut the main
power.
I think this is just another "feelgood" clause inserted by some
desk
jockey.


It is not a "feel good" clause, it is to ensure accessability to all
connections so that problems can be located, not just for fires, but
for maintenance and troubleshooting. They box may never be opened,
but if it was hidden how would you even know where it was is it
needed to be worked on.


Oh, I'd probably look at a blueprint. Failing that, I'd probably use a
multi-tester and track to where a 120 suddenly shows a 240. Lots of
ways. Not to be obstinate but there is no really good reason to
preclude covering a box with sheetrock other than just convenience.
And, that's okay. But it is just a "feel good" measure.


The vast majority of the time there ARE no blueprints on existing homes.
You're lucky to even find a written description of wiring sometimes.
A multi-tester will not tell you where a buried, inaccessible
junction box is located. In fact, there is almost no way short of
expensive equipment to even locate it to within a few inches of its
actual location.
The symptom would not be 240Vac; in a residential NA setting it would
be a loss of 120Vac 99.9% of the time. If it goes to 240, there is much
more wrong than an inaccessible junction box, which itself gives no
indication that it even exists, let alone where it is.
It's not covering a junction box with sheetrock that's a problem:
It's the inaccessibility of the junction box regardless of coverings
that is the problem. IF for instance the box were accessible from the
other side of the wall, ceiling, etc., then that's fine.
A "hot" junction box is not going to identify itself and in the hands
of a poor tech may result in an inability to even realize one exists;
while the house burns down that night. But if it's exposed it's easily
traced and found to be hot, by any competent tech with a current
license.
Read the code: It gives the reasons behind it. You're welcome to
your opinions but that doesn't mean others need to follow you or should
depend on you. Since you participate on this group I have to assume
you're involved with electrical work and thus are not credible or
reliable. Your attitude makes your comments questionable.