"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
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Richard W. wrote:
"daestrom" wrote in message
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Bruce in alaska wrote:
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The Daring Dufas wrote:

By the way, correct me if I'm wrong
but isn't jet fuel blended with additives to prevent gelling or
microbe
infestation since jet fuel is often exposed to environmental extremes?

TDD
Nope, "Jet Fuel" as you call it is JetA50, and is the same thing a #1
Diesel, Home Heating Oil, and a few other names. The difference is,
that to be classed JetA50, and sold for Aviation Fuel, it MUST be
Filtered to FAA Spec, and be within the Specific Gravity, FAA Spec.
So, what the Distributer does, is he has only one Grade of #1 Diesel in
his tanks and when he pumps it for Transport to a customer, it goes
thru
a different set of filtering for Aviation, than for Home Heating, or #1
Diesel, but it all comes from the SAME Tank. With #2 Diesel, in cold
climates, they have what is called "Winter Mix" where the Distributer
will mix #1 and #2 Diesel, to lower the GellPoint of the fuel when
loading the Truck or Barge, for deliveries starting about August, and
increase the Ratio of #1 to #2 the farther North and away from the
coast the fuel is destine for. For Gasoline, the distributer will have
an "Additive Package" that they add to the Tank when dispatching a
Load, designed for the prospective customer. Many times Shell,
Chevron, and Mobile Gas Stations, will get their fuel from the same
Distributer or supplier and the only difference in the fuel is the
"Additive Package"
put in, as the basic fuel, ALL COMES FROM THE SAME TANK. Depends on who
owns the Refinery, or where the Distributer bough his fuel from, the
last time. I have seen the same truck at two or three different Brand
Gas Stations, in town, on the same day, delivering fuel. the
distributer is 250 miles away, so you know they didn't fill the truck
three times that day.

ISTR this is even true with pipelines. When company 'A' puts several
thousands of barrels of #1 'into' the pipeline company's head end, the
pipeline company will deliver the same number of barrels out the end
point without actually trying to calculate transport time or any such.
The fuel that goes into company A's tank could have just as easily been
put in by another company shipping the same product.

As it is a totally fungible commodity, the pipeline company just logs
how many barrels in one end and that many barrels belong to company 'A'
at the other end.

But as far as #1, truck fuel, and aviation, is it still all the same now
that road diesel has to be that special (more expensive) ultra-low
sulfur stuff? Or is home heating oil (#1) and aviation jet fuel also
ultra-low sulfur now?

daestrom

My mother ran out of heating oil and asked if I could bring her some. I
didn't have a barrel, but the oil distributor said he had an empty I
could borrow. When I got there he was filling it with #2 pump diesel. The
same stuff you would put in your diesel pickup or tractor. He said it was
the same stuff and my mother's furnace ran just fine.


Richard W.

I believe the only difference is dye and taxes. The DOT
is always after truck drivers using home heating oil to
run their trucks because it doesn't have the road tax
included in it's price.

TDD

I believe you're right on that. I met a survivalist once years ago. All his
cars and trucks were diesel. He used home heating oil in everything. He
claimed to have over 10,000 gallons stored up. Never bought fuel at the pump
unless he was traveling. Every spring when the heating oil prices would go
down, he filled up his tanks.

Richard W.