phil scott wrote:


Until these proposals are stamped out or get implemented so one can
see the consequences, expect continued shrinkage in the economy.


I dont disagree... esp for the USA, given our huge range of other
issues, such as 80 million now
reaching retirement and no way in hell to fund that. I share your
views on the cap in trade policy as well,

that does not translate however as some tend to do...that all liberal
policy is bad, and all other policy is right.
I think we have plenty of insanity and corruption to go around on
either side of the fence...polarized views tend
to blind a person to the insanity on his or her own side of the fence.

Everybody agrees on goals, we differ on methods. Liberals tend to provide
for the general welfare through the treasury, conservatives tend to promote
the general welfare through the economy. Liberals tend to multi-task, they
can solve a problem a minute (if everybody would just....). Conservatives
tend to be single-focused, working on one problem at a time (first, let's
kill all the terrorists...).

As Ben Stein recently said:

"When I think about the economy I think about a plump man who has just been
hit by a truck while crossing a street and is in severely critical condition
with internal bleeding. Instead of just stabilizing his hemorrhaging, the
doctor decides that while the patient is unconscious, he might as well also
do a face lift, some coronary bypasses and a stomach-stapling to keep him
from gaining weight while he is recovering (if he does recover). After all,
a crisis is not to be wasted.

"The problem is that all these ambitious operations create too much of a
burden for the human body to bear."

He goes on to discuss the various proposals being touted. For example, why
fark with the energy business? It's working. It's humming along without a
glitch. It's providing jobs and dependable, affordable energy to everybody
in the country - from electricity for your house to diesel for your farm
tractor to gasoline for your car. Why take the chance of screwing it up at
all, and especially why now?