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On Jun 30, 11:38 am, Swingman wrote:
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will ask you, "then how do you know you are using it the correct way,
the safest way? And what in the world qualified you to be a teacher?"

Left some blood (less than many, more than most) on foreign soil,
supposedly to "defend" this country and what it(once) stood for.

Now, just "why" was that again ...??

Anymore Karl, I just don't know. I don't know. I sure don't feel
like the Liberty Bell rings like it used to.

I don't know if I am turning into just another grouchy old ****, or if
I am just fed up with just about everything because of the way things
are going, and actually have been going for some time.

When I see how badly our legal system has been perverted, and how it
affects even the most innocent events of our lives, I am literally
confounded.

I feel sometimes like I understand how things work, but certainly not
why.

I found out a lot of the things I mentioned in this thread because I
was working with someone that wanted to teach woodworking classes in
his large outbuilding. He has a nice shop, but doesn't know how to
use the tools, so that's where I was to come in.

We thought it would be fun (possibly make a few bucks) to teach some
of the older retiring fellows woodworking as a hobby, or even perhaps
a second profession. I liked working with the older guys (early-mid
70s or so) in our old woodworking club, so I thought "why not?".

After several meetings with his insurance provider, we decided the
liabilities would be too great. After researching the whole idea
completely, we let it drop. I couldn't afford the insurance, nor
could he. The recommended amount of insurance was to be $1,000,000
per person, per occurance. Also, they wanted to raise the General
Liability on the home to something like $5,000,000.

And the policy would only be granted after a shop inspection by an
OSHA approved insurance adjuster to verify that all compliance issues
were in order. The inspection fee BTW from a third party inspector
was about $1000, and the property had to be reinspected once a year
before renewal.

As one time (one job) safety compliance officer on a construction
project, I knew it would be impossible to get the guys to wear the
protective equipment every minute in the shop. Besides, most older
guys think safety gear is for pussies.

We decided to give up the idea of a casual woodworking school.

I know this isn't the same thing as CC asked about originally, but you
can see the distinct parallels.

And apparently, there is no end to this madness. I have seen some of
the new laws proposed, and they are completely absurd and work against
the public good. All they are doing with most of the new laws is to
create new grounds for lucrative legal actions.

Gee... with almost every politician now being an attorney, I wonder
how that happened....

I think at this stage of the game in the court/legal system you would
be better off to be a law breaker constantly breaking the law than to
face the consequences of being a law abiding citizen that breaks the
law unknowingly.

Robert

I agree with you about the legal system Robert,
I've been around 62 years and the changes in attitudes of people
and the lawyers are making things ridiculous.
Makes me think of the woman suing McD's because she spilled
hot coffee on herself, Seems it is getting so everyone wants to
screw someone for their mistakes. And at the forefront with their
hands in the pockets of all concerned is the lawyers. They gonna
win either way. (win or loose) The system has become as greedy
as wall street and the rest of the bunch that has melted down. And
with everything else going to hell... there's the legal system still
raking it in from both ends
CC