Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jun 26, 9:58 am, Stuart Wheaton wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jun 24, 4:50 pm, " wrote:
On Jun 24, 9:05 pm, Too_Many_Tools
wrote:
Here are some numbers... Pools : 260
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/p...07195.htmlGuns :
3792
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/00...death98.htmGot
better ones? It would seem that guns are 10x more dangerous.
TMT
In Chapter 5 of Freakonomics, which explores the art and
science of parenting, we pose this question: Which is more
dangerous, a gun or a swimming pool? It turns out that far more
children die each year in swimming pool accidents than in gun
incidents. For parents in warm- weather states like Florida,
California, and Arizona, this is plainly a year-round concern,
and now that summer seems to have leapt over spring (at least
here in New York City, where it hit 80 F. yesterday),
swimming-pool season is nearly here for all of us. Dan
I just posted the statistics...that prove otherwise. Your turn to
provide better numbers. TMT
Freakonomics is a book worth reading even though it is easy
reading. So check it out of your library. I would give you the
source for the numbers in the book, but I do not own a copy.
Your numbers are not compatible. The one for deaths in swimming
pools is for children under 5. The number for gun deaths is for
minors up to age 19 or 21. I forget which. And I think it
includes intentional deaths as well as accident.
Dan
Feel free to look for better numbers...just make sure that you have
credible references.
I would be interested in seeing them.
I tried to get stats from what I considered to be credible sources.
TMT
Safe kids USA. Injury trends report 2007...http://www.usa.safekids.org/tier3_cd...m_id=19011&fol...

The number of unintentional injury deaths for leading causes among
children less than 14 years of age has deteriorated from 1987 to 2004:i

Overall motor vehicle fatalities declined from 3,587 deaths to 2,431
deaths.
Bicycle injury fatalities declined from 389 deaths to 132 deaths.
Pedestrian injury fatalities declined from 1,283 deaths to 583 deaths.
Drowning fatalities declined from 1,363 deaths to 761 deaths.
Fire and/or burn injury fatalities declined from 1,233 deaths to 512 deaths.
Suffocation and choking fatalities have risen from 690 deaths to 963
deaths.
Unintentional firearm injury fatalities declined from 247 deaths to 63
deaths.
Falls injury fatalities declined from 149 deaths to 107 deaths.
Poisoning fatalities declined from 100 deaths to 86 deaths.

Comparing apples to apples gets you more than 10X drownings v. shootings

Interesting..thanks for posting them.

Your numbers show....

Drowning : 761
Guns : 63

My numbers show...

Pools : 260
Guns : 3792

Obviously we have a conflict.

I posted my sources.

When I went to check your sources via www.usa.safekids.org there are
no sources for the numbers.

Any idea where to look?

Click link in my post, choose format (PDF or other) that you want, look
at data....


Simple, even for a troll



Thanks

TMT