On Jun 5, 2:24*pm, RB wrote:
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Jun 5, 1:27 am, "William Wixon" wrote:
"Curious Man" wrote in message

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There seems to be a stereotype that "liberals" are the lazy sorts of
people who interrupt TV viewing only to go to soup lines, or smoke
harmful substances, whereas "conservatives" are hard working, self
reliant people who are very well off due to their own perseverance and
work ethic.
And yet, the few self proclaimed or suspected liberals and Obama
supporters of this newsgroup, seem to be very well off, accomplished
people, whereas many conservatives, while intelligent and interesting
people on many levels, are not exactly above that kind of level of
attainment.
If that is the case, is that perhaps the time to reconsider our
stereotypes?
Curious Man
i more or less recently became acquainted with a 71 y.o. man (i'm 49), he
served in the air force during korea, i'd consider him "conservative" or
"ultra conservative". he's catholic. *i collaborated with him on three
projects. *first was volunteer labor cleaning up a hillbilly shanty town
(that's what i called it) mess at a girl scout camp here. *the live-in
caretaker allowed a 10~15 year accumulation of junk to collect. *he and i,
then mostly i, cleaned it up. *second collaboration was picking up the
litter, junk, garbage along a local country road here. *third was a year
later continuation of that same litter/garbage pick up effort. *thing that
amazes me is he and i couldn't be more diametrically opposed in our
political beliefs but yet he and i can peacefully cooperate on projects
that, i believe, are to the betterment of our community. *i'm absolutely
amazed i can remain in his presence for more than 10 seconds considering
his, what for me are RADICAL right wing opinions. *it continues to amaze me.
my blood turns to ice the second he starts in on his political views,
thankfully i've been able to avoid having to endure listening to them very
often or for very long. *i have a continuous fear that somewhere along the
line he's going to go off on obama or liberals or "socialists" and i
absolutely will not be able to tolerate it and my relationship with him will
come to a screeching halt. *that would be a pity. *i do enjoy hanging out
with him, bull****ting with him, working on those projects together with
him. *thing i find surprising is there are areas of overlap between
"liberals" and conservatives. *"caring for the planet", bettering our
community, respecting nature and local history, preserving open
space/farmland. *he's pretty much the driving force behind a local movement
to stop a housing development that's slated to go on historic farmland here,
that's the part where much to my surprise, liberal and conservative overlap.
i'd assume you wouldn't ordinarily think conservatives would oppose a
housing development, but this is open historic farmland. *i'd think
conservatives would be staunch "landowner's rights" proponents. *he's very
active in the community, on the library board, member of the historical
society, constantly doing volunteer work for the community. *an inspiration
to this "liberal" "socialist".
i was thinking the volume is turned up here on usenet discussion groups.
probably out there in the world "liberals" and conservatives cooperate on
all sorts of worthy projects, projects that get little or no press. *i'd
like to hope so at least.

b.w.

First of all let me thank you for walking the talk in relation to
community support...most people can only talk and suddenly disappear
when the work needs to be done.

Most conservatives

(Usual BS generalisms follow)

Sheesh. William writes a thoughtful commentary on the common ground
between liberals and conservatives, and you launch into questioning the
motives on everything the conservative does.
* *Your post was the diametric opposite of *Williams and the very reason
people like you wind up in the Trollheap - you have no reasoning to
bring to any real discussion.

What a frickin' loser

LOL...conservatives are so funny...and they get POed when someone tags
them for what they are.

Sounds like my comments touched a bit too close to home...did they
remind you of your true motives?

My response was meant to be thoughtful and helpful.

William has already noted that he is having to keep his distance from
this conservative...and I admire him for being politically astute.

The conservative in question may be harmless...but from the info I
have to work with indicates one should take a defensive posture until
more info indicates otherwise.

Personally I hope William and this conservative become the best of
friends so each can learn from the other's views of life....both
liberal and conservative...they both have something to teach.

TMT