Jim Elbrecht wrote:
Ryan P wrote:

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If you read the writings of the founding fathers, you would certainly
come to the conclusion that they would be appalled at what the US
government has become... a nanny state.

Just for giggles. . . which of the founder's writings have you read
that gave you that impression?

I've read volumes of John Adams', Ben Franklin's, and Thomas
Jefferson's words-- and a few thousand pages of the other Declaration
Signers writings. IMO, they would be more concerned that gov't is
doing more to help businesses than citizens, and that politicians are
far too often just lining their own pockets. But for the most part
they'd be pretty proud that their grand experiment has withstood the
test of time.

Jim

IIRC, George Washington insisted for some time that the POTUS be
addressed as "Excellency"....or was it Adams? George fought against
strenuous opposition to have a "standing army"...many opposed that.